Comments on: Trans Kids in UK Schools http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/ The Boys Blog Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:15:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: cenk http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-39375 cenk Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:31:53 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-39375 This is weird. sO IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE A SEX CHAGE OPERATION. Then they did not really change sex. It should be illegal to get that kind of operation before age 20 or so. Being a gril and acting like one are two different things. This is weird. sO IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE A SEX CHAGE OPERATION. Then they did not really change sex. It should be illegal to get that kind of operation before age 20 or so. Being a gril and acting like one are two different things.

]]> By: stewart http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-38559 stewart Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:18:16 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-38559 This is a really hard one -- why? In the story above the children are boys who want to be girls. However, when you turn it around it starts to show up some of the bigger societal issues. My middle school daughter wants to be a boy. She dresses as a boy, uses the boys restrooms, and a large number of her friends believe she is a boy. What's the problem you ask: for me the problem in this particular case is that it is quite apparent to me that s/he's figured out that being female in this society (USA) is not a very good deal. It really isn't about her body or sex or love relationships (at this point) -- but about being treated with respect and dignity. I suspect the same is true of a lot of boys -- men may have power, but boys get a lot of stuff shoved off on them. If everyone were given equal dignity, respect and opportunity, I'm sure there would be less feeling of being trapped in the wrong body. Well, if everyone were given dignity, respect and opportunity it would also be a lot easier to let people know you felt trapped in the wrong body. What I'm asking: let's treat everyone as wonderful humans!!! This is a really hard one — why? In the story above the children are boys who want to be girls. However, when you turn it around it starts to show up some of the bigger societal issues. My middle school daughter wants to be a boy. She dresses as a boy, uses the boys restrooms, and a large number of her friends believe she is a boy. What’s the problem you ask: for me the problem in this particular case is that it is quite apparent to me that s/he’s figured out that being female in this society (USA) is not a very good deal. It really isn’t about her body or sex or love relationships (at this point) — but about being treated with respect and dignity. I suspect the same is true of a lot of boys — men may have power, but boys get a lot of stuff shoved off on them. If everyone were given equal dignity, respect and opportunity, I’m sure there would be less feeling of being trapped in the wrong body. Well, if everyone were given dignity, respect and opportunity it would also be a lot easier to let people know you felt trapped in the wrong body. What I’m asking: let’s treat everyone as wonderful humans!!!

]]> By: jazzy http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37573 jazzy Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:50:02 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37573 Being in the wrong body - not a decision. Changing one's body - clearly a decision. From what i read in the article its just about finding out what they want to decide so far. Being in the wrong body – not a decision.
Changing one’s body – clearly a decision.

From what i read in the article its just about finding out what they want to decide so far.

]]> By: jazzy http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37572 jazzy Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37572 Good point. And seeing how many boys in my class were confused about their sexuality and are happy heterosexuals just five years later makes me think one should wait a little longer before taking any permanent steps. Nonetheless anything non-permanent might be the right thing to try out. Even if just to see that its not what one wants and try something else. Good point. And seeing how many boys in my class were confused about their sexuality and are happy heterosexuals just five years later makes me think one should wait a little longer before taking any permanent steps. Nonetheless anything non-permanent might be the right thing to try out. Even if just to see that its not what one wants and try something else.

]]> By: Joshua http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37569 Joshua Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:46:53 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37569 The surgery is very risky, but I believe the possible side-effects are, for the people that undergo it, a trade-off. The way I see it, it's a trade off between possibly not getting off again, and living your life in a body that you actually have a possibility of being comfortable in. Also, I have heard the hormone treatment can suppress sex drive. And a sex-life isn't always necessary for somebody to live a full and happy life, asexual people are living proof of this. The surgery is very risky, but I believe the possible side-effects are, for the people that undergo it, a trade-off. The way I see it, it’s a trade off between possibly not getting off again, and living your life in a body that you actually have a possibility of being comfortable in. Also, I have heard the hormone treatment can suppress sex drive. And a sex-life isn’t always necessary for somebody to live a full and happy life, asexual people are living proof of this.

]]> By: Joshua http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37568 Joshua Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:36:18 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37568 Okay, there is a huge difference between an effeminate boy and a girl in a boys body. I'm an effeminate boy, but I'm a boy. These kids aren't male mentally. They are girls. The big difference? I'm perfectly happy being a guy. The dislike I have of my body is self-esteem related, and has nothing to do with it being male. These kids, if they continue living as boys, will usually grow to hate their male body. This can lead to problems such as self-harming later in their lives. No amount of therapy will ever make them boys, in the same way those wonderful little "straightening out" camps fundamentalist Christians are fond of just don't work. All the child will do is learn to suppress their emotions, which is very rarely a healthy thing to do. Okay, there is a huge difference between an effeminate boy and a girl in a boys body. I’m an effeminate boy, but I’m a boy. These kids aren’t male mentally. They are girls. The big difference? I’m perfectly happy being a guy. The dislike I have of my body is self-esteem related, and has nothing to do with it being male. These kids, if they continue living as boys, will usually grow to hate their male body. This can lead to problems such as self-harming later in their lives. No amount of therapy will ever make them boys, in the same way those wonderful little “straightening out” camps fundamentalist Christians are fond of just don’t work. All the child will do is learn to suppress their emotions, which is very rarely a healthy thing to do.

]]> By: RAY http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37556 RAY Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:10:19 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37556 I missed this story, then I don't read the SUN. I am sure that the kids didn't make the decision on their own. I am sure that the parents and children were given advice and support before a life changing situation like this. Good luck to them and lets hope they will be happy with their new persona and their peers give them all the support that they are definitely going to need. I missed this story, then I don’t read the SUN.
I am sure that the kids didn’t make the decision on their own. I am sure that the parents and children were given advice and support before a life changing situation like this. Good luck to them and lets hope they will be happy with their new persona and their peers give them all the support that they are definitely going to need.

]]> By: Josh~ http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37555 Josh~ Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:34:59 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37555 It's. Not. A. Decision. It’s. Not. A. Decision.

]]> By: horselips http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37554 horselips Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:33:59 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37554 So, the decisions of a 9 and 12 year old for gender reassignment should be indulged? Are these people insane? HELL YES they are! I would imagine if these children wanted to vote, drive cars, enter into contracts, live on their own, or make other decisions should also be indulged. How effed up must these parents be to have been so completely inneffectual. If these boys were effeminate, so what? Tomboy girls and effeminate boys have always existed - and it's no excuse to carve them up. These kids need shrinks not surgeons-and so do their parents. Hmmm. What a curmudgeon I seem to have become... So, the decisions of a 9 and 12 year old for gender reassignment should be indulged? Are these people insane? HELL YES they are! I would imagine if these children wanted to vote, drive cars, enter into contracts, live on their own, or make other decisions should also be indulged. How effed up must these parents be to have been so completely inneffectual. If these boys were effeminate, so what? Tomboy girls and effeminate boys have always existed – and it’s no excuse to carve them up. These kids need shrinks not surgeons-and so do their parents.
Hmmm. What a curmudgeon I seem to have become…

]]> By: Josh~ http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-37553 Josh~ Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:15:55 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/trans-kids-in-uk-schools/#comment-37553 Robbie, it's as much a decision as you have "decided" to be gay. Robbie, it’s as much a decision as you have “decided” to be gay.

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