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	<title>Comments on: The Mob vs. The Emos</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=705eff7779471e68d28d0970ff36fefa&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/e2608f5af0dee77.png" alt="Chuck Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Chuck</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-mob-vs-the-emos/#comment-6044</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I'm too late to give some light into what happened. But I did something that gave me a very sad and wide answer. It was years since my last time in Queretaro. It overwhelmed me by it's beauty and it's people. All sorts of them: me my friends, dressed in beautifully handcrafted mexican linen clothes... plain-as-plain groups of kids rehearsing reggae tunes... emos of all social and economic provenance... spiky-coloured-haired-black-clad-chaps... kids just strolling around with their families... you get the picture. But what shocked me quite heavily was reading the eight-column cover page of the local newspapers: "We lost 60% of projected tourism. The blame goes to intolerance". 

I was there on Easter's weekend, and the in-"famous" Plaza de Armas was empty of emos. Most of them are afraid of hanging around after dark, when most people go out because of the fine weather and because of the opportunity to socialise. I'm sad. This is something that has something very deeply rooted in the machismo issue others pointed out.

Let's hope the close-minded kids who got together after a more than 3,000 strong call through the Internet, manage somehow to become civilised. Now that I'm back home, I think about the true scare the attacked kids have been through... and it scares me too. It could've easily be a bloodbath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m too late to give some light into what happened. But I did something that gave me a very sad and wide answer. It was years since my last time in Queretaro. It overwhelmed me by it&#8217;s beauty and it&#8217;s people. All sorts of them: me my friends, dressed in beautifully handcrafted mexican linen clothes&#8230; plain-as-plain groups of kids rehearsing reggae tunes&#8230; emos of all social and economic provenance&#8230; spiky-coloured-haired-black-clad-chaps&#8230; kids just strolling around with their families&#8230; you get the picture. But what shocked me quite heavily was reading the eight-column cover page of the local newspapers: &#8220;We lost 60% of projected tourism. The blame goes to intolerance&#8221;. </p>
<p>I was there on Easter&#8217;s weekend, and the in-&#8221;famous&#8221; Plaza de Armas was empty of emos. Most of them are afraid of hanging around after dark, when most people go out because of the fine weather and because of the opportunity to socialise. I&#8217;m sad. This is something that has something very deeply rooted in the machismo issue others pointed out.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope the close-minded kids who got together after a more than 3,000 strong call through the Internet, manage somehow to become civilised. Now that I&#8217;m back home, I think about the true scare the attacked kids have been through&#8230; and it scares me too. It could&#8217;ve easily be a bloodbath.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico is so stupid. Mexican hate emos..... American love emos. it different... mexican like hoe,ghetto,whore,poor! American-Mexican is mix like emo,punk,gotic,ghetto,preppy,normal,etc. OMFG

Why people think bangs is only emo? 

Wrongs! Bangs is for style!!!! Not only emo... people blame on emo? It stupid. 
I have bangs hair but I'm not emo... im screamo,indie,rock,skate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexico is so stupid. Mexican hate emos&#8230;.. American love emos. it different&#8230; mexican like hoe,ghetto,whore,poor! American-Mexican is mix like emo,punk,gotic,ghetto,preppy,normal,etc. OMFG</p>
<p>Why people think bangs is only emo? </p>
<p>Wrongs! Bangs is for style!!!! Not only emo&#8230; people blame on emo? It stupid.<br />
I have bangs hair but I&#8217;m not emo&#8230; im screamo,indie,rock,skate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'm Mexican, I'm teenager and I'm gay, I live in the state of Chihuahua and I'm very ashamed of my country right now...

The only thing I can say right now is that not everyone in this country are ignorant like them, and I'm very sorry for that stupid event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m Mexican, I&#8217;m teenager and I&#8217;m gay, I live in the state of Chihuahua and I&#8217;m very ashamed of my country right now&#8230;</p>
<p>The only thing I can say right now is that not everyone in this country are ignorant like them, and I&#8217;m very sorry for that stupid event.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=949dc1655e0e773a38814615bbab0aa9&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/c3d5dedf884c7d4.png" alt="Tabbs Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Tabbs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intellect of a mob=IQ of the dumbest person in it divided by number of participants. Nuff said.</description>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3022817a8ef25811c84aaddf1fc68bc4&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/f5fd99c20441efe.png" alt="William Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> William</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emo boys are giving Mexico a bad image? Crazy woman-lovers. O_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emo boys are giving Mexico a bad image? Crazy woman-lovers. O_.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=fa7115fd2ca68fd343a6ca74d51cc11d&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/7663bee4292bd3e.png" alt="Alan Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Alan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lukas, myths die hard. No matter who was there, it happened and sparked a revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lukas, myths die hard. No matter who was there, it happened and sparked a revolution.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,
Thank you for posting this / giving us a heads up.  I feel that as we see the influence of the USA expand we will see more people emboldened to act as these did against the emo kids.  After all they have the support of the USA.  As “demo” says, it is like this all over South America.  That boy must have been scared shitless.  Let's hope he is OK now.  How could he be?


Alan,
I would refer you to David Carter's 2004 book "Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked the Gay Revolution" in which he presents an effective argument that it was not the drag queens that began the riot and that the lesbian who said she did fabricated her story.  If you look at the picture on the cover of Carter's book taken just before the police were forced back inside The Stonewall Inn you see no drag queens.

It is important for us to understand what really happened there that summer night in 1969 and who the boys that rioted really were, how they were co-opted by the predecessors of the present LGBT Leadership.
Lukas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,<br />
Thank you for posting this / giving us a heads up.  I feel that as we see the influence of the USA expand we will see more people emboldened to act as these did against the emo kids.  After all they have the support of the USA.  As “demo” says, it is like this all over South America.  That boy must have been scared shitless.  Let&#8217;s hope he is OK now.  How could he be?</p>
<p>Alan,<br />
I would refer you to David Carter&#8217;s 2004 book &#8220;Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked the Gay Revolution&#8221; in which he presents an effective argument that it was not the drag queens that began the riot and that the lesbian who said she did fabricated her story.  If you look at the picture on the cover of Carter&#8217;s book taken just before the police were forced back inside The Stonewall Inn you see no drag queens.</p>
<p>It is important for us to understand what really happened there that summer night in 1969 and who the boys that rioted really were, how they were co-opted by the predecessors of the present LGBT Leadership.<br />
Lukas</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im from south america 
and i have to say that, that machismo thing its not only in mexico but in a vast mayority of the south american countrys, 
and im telling you this from within my closset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im from south america<br />
and i have to say that, that machismo thing its not only in mexico but in a vast mayority of the south american countrys,<br />
and im telling you this from within my closset.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico is a bit backwards, they have that machismo thing going on. Maybe the emo's will be like the drag queens in New York back in the Stonewall days, and start something in Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexico is a bit backwards, they have that machismo thing going on. Maybe the emo&#8217;s will be like the drag queens in New York back in the Stonewall days, and start something in Mexico.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich bin kein Emo-Fan, aber das ist natürlich ekelhaft - keine Frage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich bin kein Emo-Fan, aber das ist natürlich ekelhaft - keine Frage.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worlds f*cked if these attitudes towards individuals are all that todays youth care about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worlds f*cked if these attitudes towards individuals are all that todays youth care about&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Julian!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this is the transcript of the video, translated.

Thought it would be useful...
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[Mob shouting]
News reporter: This is the way in which dozens of young men were trying to finish off  another group of  guys at Queretaro’s “Plaza de Armas” square.
[Mob shouting continues]
The aggresors gathered there with a single-minded objective: to expel the so-called “Emos”
[more mob shouting]
In previous days a calling was made through some websites asking to take back the Plaza de Armas.
A youth organisation so-called “Anti-emo” asked to finish off a group that used to gather there; a group of youngsters who differentiates themselves by dressing in black and by covering part of their faces with fringes.
[mob shouting: “HE’S GONNA CRY... HE’S GONNA CRY...”]
News reporter again: The calling was successful. Hundreds of people almost lynched the emos.
Middle class preppy guy talking: “I’m not bothered by the emo boys. Really, that doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is them taking a part of this square [Plaza de Armas] and acting as if it was their own. It also bothers me a little that they dress more like girls than boys.
News reporter continues: Luckily enough, some other young men as well as the local police got in among the mob to avoid anyone getting fatally injured.
Guy in blue shirt (maybe a government officer, no further info offered): “we heartily ask these young men’s parents to get to know in a deeper way what his children are getting into”.
News reporter continues: “It was announced that during the next weekends the police pressence will be increased since more anti-emo callings are being expected”
Adam Olvera, reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, this is the transcript of the video, translated.</p>
<p>Thought it would be useful&#8230;<br />
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[Mob shouting]<br />
News reporter: This is the way in which dozens of young men were trying to finish off  another group of  guys at Queretaro’s “Plaza de Armas” square.<br />
[Mob shouting continues]<br />
The aggresors gathered there with a single-minded objective: to expel the so-called “Emos”<br />
[more mob shouting]<br />
In previous days a calling was made through some websites asking to take back the Plaza de Armas.<br />
A youth organisation so-called “Anti-emo” asked to finish off a group that used to gather there; a group of youngsters who differentiates themselves by dressing in black and by covering part of their faces with fringes.<br />
[mob shouting: “HE’S GONNA CRY... HE’S GONNA CRY...”]<br />
News reporter again: The calling was successful. Hundreds of people almost lynched the emos.<br />
Middle class preppy guy talking: “I’m not bothered by the emo boys. Really, that doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is them taking a part of this square [Plaza de Armas] and acting as if it was their own. It also bothers me a little that they dress more like girls than boys.<br />
News reporter continues: Luckily enough, some other young men as well as the local police got in among the mob to avoid anyone getting fatally injured.<br />
Guy in blue shirt (maybe a government officer, no further info offered): “we heartily ask these young men’s parents to get to know in a deeper way what his children are getting into”.<br />
News reporter continues: “It was announced that during the next weekends the police pressence will be increased since more anti-emo callings are being expected”<br />
Adam Olvera, reporting.</p>
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