Comments on: The Censored Net http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/ The Boys Blog Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:19:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Stan http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-35667 Stan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:50:30 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-35667 And Why Not...? And Why Not…?

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]]> By: Amaya http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-25031 Amaya Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:21:30 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-25031 On a bit of an unrelated topic, the picture with this post is actually a girl... BellZ on DeviantART, look her up. http://bellZ.deviantart.com And she's from Latvia. It's difficult to tell in this picture but in her more recent ones, it's plainly obvious. On a bit of an unrelated topic, the picture with this post is actually a girl… BellZ on DeviantART, look her up.
http://bellZ.deviantart.com
And she’s from Latvia.

It’s difficult to tell in this picture but in her more recent ones, it’s plainly obvious.

]]> By: MrChives http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24308 MrChives Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:32:45 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24308 This being the same document that forbids both the incitement of the people and the denial of Nazi crimes? Now, don't take that to mean that I in any way support Nazi-ism, sympathize with Nazi-ism, or promote Nazi-ism. But the fact that a constitution can both forbid it and endorse it makes it very clear that censorship is a complex issue, which really has been my only point all along. This being the same document that forbids both the incitement of the people and the denial of Nazi crimes? Now, don’t take that to mean that I in any way support Nazi-ism, sympathize with Nazi-ism, or promote Nazi-ism. But the fact that a constitution can both forbid it and endorse it makes it very clear that censorship is a complex issue, which really has been my only point all along.

]]> By: Josh http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24255 Josh Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:50:28 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24255 There is another point one shouldn't miss: The more laws, the more fears... every new law limits our freedom because we might not do anything we could do just because we think we <b>could</b> do anything wrong. I don't know about other countries but the GERMAN BASIC LAW says: Every person shall have the right freely to express and disseminate his opinions in speech, writing, and pictures and <b>to inform himself without hindrance from generally accessible sources.</b> Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting by means of broadcasts and films shall be guaranteed. <b>There shall be no censorship.</b> There is another point one shouldn’t miss: The more laws, the more fears… every new law limits our freedom because we might not do anything we could do just because we think we could do anything wrong.

I don’t know about other countries but the GERMAN BASIC LAW says:

Every person shall have the right freely to express and disseminate his opinions in speech, writing, and pictures and to inform himself without hindrance from generally accessible sources. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting by means of broadcasts and films shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship.

]]> By: Miajamenant http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24254 Miajamenant Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:39:52 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24254 To those that that say that it not a slippery slide are placing to much faith in government, if you give government the power to censor sites without any public oversight you are just begging for that system to be abused. At any rate people can easily by pass a lot of these measures and not even the great firewall of China blocks everything (although that's not why they do it, unlike some western governments they aren't stupid). Most of these filters strike me as vote grubbing measures that play on people's anxieties and fears of what they do not understand and hopefully that is all it is as opposed to something more sinister. To those that that say that it not a slippery slide are placing to much faith in government, if you give government the power to censor sites without any public oversight you are just begging for that system to be abused. At any rate people can easily by pass a lot of these measures and not even the great firewall of China blocks everything (although that’s not why they do it, unlike some western governments they aren’t stupid).

Most of these filters strike me as vote grubbing measures that play on people’s anxieties and fears of what they do not understand and hopefully that is all it is as opposed to something more sinister.

]]> By: Tombi04 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24244 Tombi04 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:32:24 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24244 Josh, thanks for being one of the few people to talk about NZ's current situation with the government recording peoples conversations. I would like to point out that New Zealand has recently regrettably changed over to a right-wing government. Mr Chives, the link between banning legal gay websites and banning sites of political groups, the recent actions of the New Zealand government do make it an all too real possibility. They have been using the anti-terrorist laws passed in the wake of 9-11 to secretly record conversations of aforementioned political groups, including Greenpeace. Near the beginning of 2008 these same laws were also used to invade people's homes and make numerous arrests. Is it not a reasonable view to think that these laws (which many countries have versions of) could also be used to ban these sites if they contained "objectionable content"? The only event in the history of New Zealand that could be classified as "terrorist" was carried out by the French Secret Service. Josh, thanks for being one of the few people to talk about NZ’s current situation with the government recording peoples conversations. I would like to point out that New Zealand has recently regrettably changed over to a right-wing government.

Mr Chives, the link between banning legal gay websites and banning sites of political groups, the recent actions of the New Zealand government do make it an all too real possibility. They have been using the anti-terrorist laws passed in the wake of 9-11 to secretly record conversations of aforementioned political groups, including Greenpeace. Near the beginning of 2008 these same laws were also used to invade people’s homes and make numerous arrests. Is it not a reasonable view to think that these laws (which many countries have versions of) could also be used to ban these sites if they contained “objectionable content”?
The only event in the history of New Zealand that could be classified as “terrorist” was carried out by the French Secret Service.

]]> By: MrChives http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24181 MrChives Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:23:07 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24181 Adelmus, et al.: Apparently words like "erring" and "overextended" failed to convey that I don't support these measures; however, as we here have just demonstrated, this is a hot issue, and it involves some gray areas in the law. As for Germany becoming a police state, I confess, living, as I do, in America, my utter ignorance on that point. Which leads me to my next issue; Larione: Was that whole thing to me? I don't speak German, so if it was, I can't properly reply. As for the first bit in English, it was Josh who mentioned the lack of terrorism. Josh: I just read the latest post (Goodbye), and am very sorry to hear it. Thanks for everything, I'll miss coming here every day... Adelmus, et al.: Apparently words like “erring” and “overextended” failed to convey that I don’t support these measures; however, as we here have just demonstrated, this is a hot issue, and it involves some gray areas in the law.

As for Germany becoming a police state, I confess, living, as I do, in America, my utter ignorance on that point. Which leads me to my next issue;

Larione: Was that whole thing to me? I don’t speak German, so if it was, I can’t properly reply. As for the first bit in English, it was Josh who mentioned the lack of terrorism.

Josh: I just read the latest post (Goodbye), and am very sorry to hear it. Thanks for everything, I’ll miss coming here every day…

]]> By: blurf http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24166 blurf Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:35:25 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24166 crashguy: Youth are "innocent"? Not the ones I grew up with, and not me, and not most of the ones I've met. I'm not sure protecting their "innocence" (which is often code for their "stupidity" or "inability to think for themselves") is so important. I mean, there's a long line between protecting their "innocence" and sexually violating them. (Or is there? If they're too "innocent" to know what's about to happen to them?) crashguy: Youth are “innocent”? Not the ones I grew up with, and not me, and not most of the ones I’ve met. I’m not sure protecting their “innocence” (which is often code for their “stupidity” or “inability to think for themselves”) is so important. I mean, there’s a long line between protecting their “innocence” and sexually violating them. (Or is there? If they’re too “innocent” to know what’s about to happen to them?)

]]> By: crevsd http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/comment-page-1/#comment-24165 crevsd Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:27:22 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/the-censored-net/#comment-24165 The boy in the photo is so hot. The boy in the photo is so hot.

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