Comments on: Teenagers as Sex Offenders http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/ The Boys Blog Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:21:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Daniel http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38942 Daniel Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:06:07 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38942 The point I was trying to express is that if two children can have sex,a child must also be allowed to have sex with an adult since it is the exact same act taking place in both instances.It is not reasonable to discriminate against one of the hypothetical partners based on their age.If a minor having sex with adults is inherently unjust,as existing laws would suggest,It must also be unjust for minor to have sex with a minor since all of the risks,problems and pitfalls assosiated with the sex remain,even if it is "youthfull curiosity".Also, it is not strictly neccessary for "experimentation" to take place amongst teens.A lot of people(at least a third,perhaps closer to half) dont have their first sexual contact until well into adulthood. The point I was trying to express is that if two children can have sex,a child must also be allowed to have sex with an adult since it is the exact same act taking place in both instances.It is not reasonable to discriminate against one of the hypothetical partners based on their age.If a minor having sex with adults is inherently unjust,as existing laws would suggest,It must also be unjust for minor to have sex with a minor since all of the risks,problems and pitfalls assosiated with the sex remain,even if it is “youthfull curiosity”.Also, it is not strictly neccessary for “experimentation” to take place amongst teens.A lot of people(at least a third,perhaps closer to half) dont have their first sexual contact until well into adulthood.

]]> By: musicbuff http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38912 musicbuff Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:44:13 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38912 I am afraid i voted for Obama in the,obvious,blind hope that he would do much to help all. He has not and/or has not been allowed to do much of anything. *SIGH*. Sadly my friend, you are correct in stating that there are indeed darker days ahead for those of us that do not/will not, conform to the general populations way of narrow minded thinking. All should open there ears and eyes and be aware of all going on in the world arround them. I am afraid i voted for Obama in the,obvious,blind hope that he would do much to help all. He has not and/or has not been allowed to do much of anything. *SIGH*. Sadly my friend, you are correct in stating that there are indeed darker days ahead for those of us that do not/will not, conform to the general populations way of narrow minded thinking. All should open there ears and eyes and be aware of all going on in the world arround them.

]]> By: musicbuff http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38911 musicbuff Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:39:32 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38911 I do agree with you,kidm. Consider the sentence adjusted accordingly. Thank You! I do agree with you,kidm. Consider the sentence adjusted accordingly. Thank You!

]]> By: adje http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38895 adje Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:45:10 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38895 do not agree at all, LJ : that is the sad thing with how amaricans and many europeans these days are raised: My 1st sexual experience I remember was sucking dickies at kindergarten behind the bushes where the nuns couldn't see. At age 12 I was deeply infatuated with the guys who were allowed to ride motorbikes and looking to get close and intimate with them all the time. Nothing ever happened that was not my own choice and I did not seek myself. Later in when I realised I was gay, long before MTV, Logo, Out-tv or Timm, there were no guys of my own age I could experiment with, if I had wanted that; I was much more impressed by the great big strong and experienced and hairy variety. We have a saying in Dutcj "you have to learn cycling on an old bike" Sadly nowadays youth think they can learn sexual techniques behind a pc, or from other kids. the paranoid situation comes from the lack of distinction made in common opinion and the law: intimate activity when it is un-voluntary and is forced with money, threat of being outed, or violence, that is called rape and should remain very much a criminal offence, be it with same age, or with different ages, be it male - female, or same gender. And no, I've not grown into the teacher, boyscout type. My preferences still remain with older or around my own age as I have no patience with youth, especially when they are cocky, over assured and when they think they already know it all. Building a great sexual techniques vocabulary does take most of a lifetime and many many surprises are to be had along that long path! do not agree at all, LJ :
that is the sad thing with how amaricans and many europeans these days are raised: My 1st sexual experience I remember was sucking dickies at kindergarten behind the bushes where the nuns couldn’t see. At age 12 I was deeply infatuated with the guys who were allowed to ride motorbikes and looking to get close and intimate with them all the time.
Nothing ever happened that was not my own choice and I did not seek myself.

Later in when I realised I was gay, long before MTV, Logo, Out-tv or Timm, there were no guys of my own age I could experiment with, if I had wanted that; I was much more impressed by the great big strong and experienced and hairy variety. We have a saying in Dutcj “you have to learn cycling on an old bike” Sadly nowadays youth think they can learn sexual techniques behind a pc, or from other kids.

the paranoid situation comes from the lack of distinction made in common opinion and the law:
intimate activity when it is un-voluntary and is forced with money, threat of being outed, or violence, that is called rape and should remain very much a criminal offence, be it with same age, or with different ages, be it male – female, or same gender.

And no, I’ve not grown into the teacher, boyscout type. My preferences still remain with older or around my own age as I have no patience with youth, especially when they are cocky, over assured and when they think they already know it all.
Building a great sexual techniques vocabulary does take most of a lifetime and many many surprises are to be had along that long path!

]]> By: hlm http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38893 hlm Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:11:18 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38893 PO claims that the figures on the Classically Liberal blog are for violent attacks. He is wrong and had he read the site more carefully, particularly in the comments, he would see he is totally wrong. The offenses include all sorts of non-violent, consenting sex. Under US law a crime can be called violent merely because of the age of the "victim" not because it is violent. PO should read more carefully before spreading falsehoods. The blog in question quotes the definitions so as to be clear and it showed that non-violent, consent offenses are included as well. PO claims that the figures on the Classically Liberal blog are for violent attacks. He is wrong and had he read the site more carefully, particularly in the comments, he would see he is totally wrong. The offenses include all sorts of non-violent, consenting sex. Under US law a crime can be called violent merely because of the age of the “victim” not because it is violent. PO should read more carefully before spreading falsehoods. The blog in question quotes the definitions so as to be clear and it showed that non-violent, consent offenses are included as well.

]]> By: larkin http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38883 larkin Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:18:08 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38883 A dark method to the madness. I had another fearful flight of imagination regarding the broadening of the category of sex offender to include minor offences, like streaking, urination in public or kids caught with Playboy magazine. The harsh punishment that follows requiring registration as a sex offender amounts to public banishment. Not being able to live near schools or even churches and a demand to report to the police each time you move for the rest of your life suddenly had me thinking of the Nuremberg laws enacted in Germany in 1935 applying similar restrictions on Jews. This is the technique and structure of political scapegoating. Our sold out congress of both parties has fucked things up so much that they need to distract the public with ready-made enemies. The US is hovering so close to a financial collapse as the world reserve currency that may shift to the Euro or Asian currencies. If happens, 68trillion in debt may trigger a Weimar Hyper inflationary event impoverishing the majority of the population. I can tell you now, they will be so fucking pissed off and they will be looking for someone to blame. The Christian Fundamentalists has laid the foundation for retribution and hatred and thanks for the sex offender registry, they will know just where to go. Keep your closets handy because it will only expand from there. These laws are so patently unconstitutional and yet they are not being tested. But then, Bush's offences against the Geneva Convention on torture aren't being tested either and Obama doesn't seem to be rolling anything of these transgressions back. I'm afraid, they're darker days ahead. A dark method to the madness.

I had another fearful flight of imagination regarding the broadening of the category of sex offender to include minor offences, like streaking, urination in public or kids caught with Playboy magazine. The harsh punishment that follows requiring registration as a sex offender amounts to public banishment. Not being able to live near schools or even churches and a demand to report to the police each time you move for the rest of your life suddenly had me thinking of the Nuremberg laws enacted in Germany in 1935 applying similar restrictions on Jews. This is the technique and structure of political scapegoating. Our sold out congress of both parties has fucked things up so much that they need to distract the public with ready-made enemies.

The US is hovering so close to a financial collapse as the world reserve currency that may shift to the Euro or Asian currencies. If happens, 68trillion in debt may trigger a Weimar Hyper inflationary event impoverishing the majority of the population. I can tell you now, they will be so fucking pissed off and they will be looking for someone to blame. The Christian Fundamentalists has laid the foundation for retribution and hatred and thanks for the sex offender registry, they will know just where to go. Keep your closets handy because it will only expand from there.

These laws are so patently unconstitutional and yet they are not being tested. But then, Bush’s offences against the Geneva Convention on torture aren’t being tested either and Obama doesn’t seem to be rolling anything of these transgressions back.

I’m afraid, they’re darker days ahead.

]]> By: kidm http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38825 kidm Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:56:10 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38825 I TOTALLY agree with you musicbuff. I would extend your last sentence to even consensual intercourse between minor teens and adults. :) I TOTALLY agree with you musicbuff. I would extend your last sentence to even consensual intercourse between minor teens and adults. :)

]]> By: musicbuff http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38819 musicbuff Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:18:35 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38819 Between the Governments of the world and Religeous groups pointing fingers ( so we do not see there hypocracies i suppose) no child has a chance for a 'normal" up-bringing anymore. Not so long ago when i was 11 almost 12, me and another boi my age had a relationship,yes relationship, till i was 15. We shared,explored,learned and loved. Had we ever been caught would we have been labeled as "sexual predators"? Whenever 2 people of any age have TOTALLY CONSENTSUAL sexual contact there is no crime. We in the west have been so brainwashed into thinking sex is bad,the human body is dirty and that Gay people do not matter. I hope the next generation rips these idead to shreds! Whenever anyone of any age is constantly told "no, you can not do that" natural curiosity will almost always take over. I am no where near an advocate for child porn,rape,molestation of any kind. If 2 kids or 2 adults want to explore and have mutual fun then who are they hurting? Between the Governments of the world and Religeous groups pointing fingers ( so we do not see there hypocracies i suppose) no child has a chance for a ‘normal” up-bringing anymore. Not so long ago when i was 11 almost 12, me and another boi my age had a relationship,yes relationship, till i was 15. We shared,explored,learned and loved. Had we ever been caught would we have been labeled as “sexual predators”? Whenever 2 people of any age have TOTALLY CONSENTSUAL sexual contact there is no crime. We in the west have been so brainwashed into thinking sex is bad,the human body is dirty and that Gay people do not matter. I hope the next generation rips these idead to shreds! Whenever anyone of any age is constantly told “no, you can not do that” natural curiosity will almost always take over. I am no where near an advocate for child porn,rape,molestation of any kind. If 2 kids or 2 adults want to explore and have mutual fun then who are they hurting?

]]> By: Snow92 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38816 Snow92 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:46:16 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38816 I said she, but I meant he as well ;) I tell it again - if anyone is old enough to take responsibility for a sex crime, it means he can consent. I said she, but I meant he as well ;)
I tell it again – if anyone is old enough to take responsibility for a sex crime, it means he can consent.

]]> By: Joshua http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/comment-page-1/#comment-38812 Joshua Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:20:53 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/teenagers-as-sex-offenders/#comment-38812 Isn't a teen being less likely to perform safely in a sexual setting why there should be more comprehensive sex education, that doesn't focus on abstinence but also teaches the teens what to do if their self-control fails? For some reason you strike me as somebody that won't agree with me there. And I agree with xenopoesis here. I believe pedophilia laws should be there, to prevent them being coerced into something they don't want to do. Not because sex is dangerous for young people. Sex is dangerous for everyone if done improperly and uninformed. Isn’t a teen being less likely to perform safely in a sexual setting why there should be more comprehensive sex education, that doesn’t focus on abstinence but also teaches the teens what to do if their self-control fails? For some reason you strike me as somebody that won’t agree with me there.

And I agree with xenopoesis here. I believe pedophilia laws should be there, to prevent them being coerced into something they don’t want to do. Not because sex is dangerous for young people. Sex is dangerous for everyone if done improperly and uninformed.

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