Teen Sex belongs in Teen Literature
Oh boy, I just read a column by Canadian author Cory Doctorow. He got a shitstorm of anger from teachers, students, parents, and librarians because he dared to write about a 17 year old boy having sex and drinking a beer. I really should know better by now but still… the fact how things like this are handled in North America never fails to amaze me. I know half of you guys stop reading here because you know what awaits you but that’s ok. Yes, I’m a smug eurofag and no, I can’t stop bashing North American countries for being so hypocritical, unprogressive and fucked up. So let’s make it short here: I know there are many people living in the US and Canada who are upset about this stuff just like I am. So if you’re a teenager and can’t stand the Christian censor machine who’s trying to control what you can read and think: Go and get some Youth lit from Europe. No matter if it’s Swedish, French, Dutch or German, many (sadly not all) of the great coming of age books released here are getting translated sooner or later and I never stumbled upon one that doesn’t have sex scenes ;)
My first young adult novel, Little Brother, tells the story of a kid named Marcus Yallow who forms a guerilla army of young people dedicated to the reformation of the US government by any means necessary. He and his friends use cryptography and other technology to subvert security measures, to distribute revolutionary literature, to liberate and publish secret governmental memoes, and humiliate government officials. Every chapter includes some kind of how-to guide for accomplishing this kind of thing on your own, from tips on disabling radio-frequency ID tags to beating biometric identity system to defeating the censorware used by your school network to control what kind of things you can and can’t see on the Internet. The book is a long hymn to personal liberty, free speech, the people’s right to question and even overthrow their government, even during wartime.
Marcus is 17, and the book is intended to be read by young teens or even precocious tweens (as well as adults). Naturally, I anticipated that some of the politics and technology in the story would upset my readers. And it’s true, a few of the reviewers were critical of this stuff. But not many, not overly so. What I didn’t expect was that I would receive a torrent of correspondence and entreaties from teachers, students, parents, and librarians who were angry, worried, or upset that Marcus loses his virginity about two-thirds of the way through the book (secondarily, some of them were also offended by the fact that Marcus drinks a beer at one point, and a smaller minority wanted to know why and how Marcus could get away with talking back to his elders).
read, read, read!
because they fear nothing more than a freethinking youth


about 4 months ago
lol. My favourite was the one about “why and how Marcus could get away with talking back to his elders”, when in the book Marcus is overthrowing the government. I’d say he’s not going to care too much entirely what “his elders” think.
I always laugh when adults think just because teenagers read a book where one of the characters has sex at one point, they’ll rip off all their clothes and start fornicating on the spot. Teenagers need to know about sex, so that when it happens, they’ll be able to be safe. Because it’s a very rare person who doesn’t have sex ever.
about 4 months ago
“I can’t stop bashing North American countries for being so hypocritical, unprogressive and fucked up”.
Sadly Josh, neither can I. Given the chance, our conservative Right would ban thousands of books and silence the free thinkers in this world. My only consolation is that the Right is growing old ( as am I) and will one day NOT be in the position of power.
about 4 months ago
This is really a problem overseas. I know quite a few coming-of-age and young adults books where teens do have sex. It’s also one of the reason why Adrian mayfield hasn’t been translated yet into the english. As they wanted her to cut the sex scene with the author declined. And don’t even get me started about slash fanfiction, which is almost solely written by ol’ ladies like me and teens ;)
about 4 months ago
Teens never drink, they never have sex, and they absolutely never fail to be perfect gentlemen and ladies. Any book which presents a scenario to the contrary is inflammatory and will lead to these types of inappropriate behaviors!
about 4 months ago
If this is another ‘Anarchists Cookbook” I have no problem with discouraging it – I don’t need any more budding terrorists running around defeating the technology I’m heavilly taxed to pay for in the first place. And I don’t want my government overthrown – just defeated in the next election. As for teenage sex, backtalk and drinking – that’s kids’ stuff – if you want to see riots in the streets just have Marcus light up a cigarette. THEN you’ll see censorship at its panicked best. Liberals go berserk at the mention of teens and tobacco. Funny thing is the people most stuck up over this stuff were the Boomers of the 60s-70s sexual revolution – we screwed like rabbits growing up. Go figure.
about 4 months ago
has a aduilt i hear from teens say listen to me!!!!!, i say listen !!!!, we, i need to hear them and not!!! Tell teens to be, this, that, what a wast of time.thanks for shareing this book!!!!!!!
about 4 months ago
Canada is unprogressive compared to who exactly Josh? Show me a country with a more liberal and progressive immigration system than Canada’s (obviously no country in Europe is even remotely close) or a country which better recognizes the rights of gay people. In fact the first legally recognized same-sex marriage in the world took place here in Ontario.
Like every nation Canada has its problems and is not perfect (as a Canadian I’m perfectly content on admitting that as I think there is always room for improvement), but articles like yours that do nothing but admit bias are hardly constructive. You say you can not stop bashing us, well maybe if you weren’t so completely ill-informed it would be easier for you. We’re not the authoritarian state you dream us to be. There is no “Christian censor machine” that I can find, for instance. If you were to examine more Canadian books and films I am sure you would find sex in many of them (including ones that deal with minors, like Léolo) that didn’t cause a stir (at least not in Canada).
about 4 months ago
it’s not about what kind of books *exist* but about what kind of reaction you get for a simple thing like letting a 17 year old having sex in a book. And, sorry, you won’t get that kind of reaction in *any* European country.
about 4 months ago
Where can we get this book ‘Little Brother’, Josh? I would love to have a read.
about 4 months ago
You can buy it in every book shop, I think.
But you can also download it for free:
http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/
Consider buying it, it is an excellent book.
about 4 months ago
Such naïveté… I can´t stand all those hypocrites thinking they know what´s best for me/us…
about 4 months ago
The book of Cory Doctorow – ” Little Brother ” is a favorite of mine as it portrays quite realistically where our society is heading . I loved the book – even wrote a review of it on my blog . Can`t recall even a single passage from it which a normal person will find indecent . Censorship of works of art – in all of their forms – books , paintings , films is a crime against humanity.
about 4 months ago
hmmm, tho North america is pretty bad, i really dont think you should lump canada, and the usa together. the laws in canada are much different from those in the usa– *especially* regarding homosexuality
about 4 months ago
Bullshit, Josh. There’s an awful lot of countries in Europe that would have an uproar over this book. Europe doesn’t consist of your dream nations of Germany and Sweden. Sorry, but we do have conservative countries in our continent, whether you like it or not. Your ignorance and refusal to live in the real world is truly astounding. I really hope you pull your head out of your own arse.
about 4 months ago
Yeah Barky, we might have such a country: UK. But that’s about it. And many of you guys don’t even see yourselves as Europeans anyways.
about 4 months ago
the UK isn’t that bad :<
about 1 month ago
…There are other euro countries with conservative views you know. And I don’t think it has anything to do with the “christian censorship” deal. I myself am… a liberal christian. Don’t see that everyday now do ya? =p Sort of like an oxymoron almost. But yes. I just think its… nervous parents. You take a look at the 60s and 70s generation.. most of which are parents of todays youth… and back then, shoot. xD Now their concern is oh my gosh what if my kid finds out about that stuff I have to stop that! This s at least semi-evident from todays “helicopter” parents. Even when their children attend colleges, they still attempt to check up on their grades, etc. They’re afraid to give their children that freedom.
about 4 months ago
also, as for sex in books for teens– last year i read a book titled “three day road”, in which there were *multiple* (graphic) sex scenes, and many, many accounts of drug use (which is worse than drinking a beer, i’de say). and the main characters in the book were both teenagers.
the interesting bit– i read this book as mandatory reading material for my grade 11 english class. that means the book was at least issued to all grade 11 classes in the schoolboard- and likely, the province.
(the book is written by a canadian, and as the little flag up there shows, i am canadian, so i would think twice about your rant in this post with concerns to Canada)
about 4 months ago
Three Day Road is not a youth book (and the fact that you read it in school doesn’t make it one). The author of “Little Brother” didn’t get the reactions he got because the book had sex scenes with teenagers (while it didn’t even have a real scene) but because it had sex scenes between teenagers in a book for teenagers.
about 4 months ago
At least one U. S. YA novel has a gay teen, male protagonist who is sexually active. The book’s title is “Josef Jaeger”. It’s published by Prizm Books. Here’s a link:
http://www.prizmbooks.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11&products_id=48
You can also buy the novel through Amazon or B & N. Check it out.
about 4 months ago
There are actually tons of them (e.g. Dennis Cooper books :p) but we’re talking about youth books here (youth as in target audience), that’s why this case is different.
about 4 months ago
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2009/09/there-is-fury-and-and-sadness-inside.html
(I assume the fefe readers already noticed it)
about 4 months ago
Yes, indeed (re. the fefe comment :p).
I’ll make a post about it later.
about 4 months ago
Youth Books, Youth Books, Youth Books, get it right , guys !
about 4 months ago
Not to be such a whore, but boy I hope no censors try to get a hold of my novels “Pixiesticks” “Later,Skater” and “Freakshow” While they’re self-published, I’m assured they’d probably give those types of folks nosebleeds, their heads explode, and their naughty bits rubbed raw from how much they’ll enjoy them.
about 4 months ago
Milkboys is hosted in California.
You get about 50% of your traffic from the US: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/milkboys.org
You hate the US, but continue to serve the audience. Why? Who’s the hypocrite? Making any money off your US visitors? It’s GETTING OLD. This is how you LOSE visitors, not sure you got that in your marketing class.
Why haven’t you said “f-you” to your american visitors yet?
Cory Doctorow is an arrogant ASS. I’ve met him. He’s a dick. He’s getting media attention because he’s a media whore.
about 4 months ago
1. Alexa is mostly used by Americans so it’s no surprise it tells you that most visitors are Americans. The truth is far from it ‘tho. We have way more visitors than Alexa shows since most people are smart enough to not use spyware like the Alexa toolbar.
2. I never said I hate all Americans, I actually said like a thousand times that I’m aware of the fact that many Americans are just as annoyed about stuff like this like I am.
3. If you don’t share my opinion or don’t like how I express it you’re free to ignore the text posts or don’t visit the blog at all.
about 4 months ago
i’ll try to find it here, in Brazil, thx for the post josh
about 4 months ago
I agree with you Josh, I get so tired of the censorship. If you do not like a book: do not read it. Simple. I made a rule with my son (yes, yes, long story) that he can read anything in my house (and I have a library to kill for), but that there might be some things he and I would need to talk about. Right now he is only 11, but, the day is coming when he real read books that have language we do not use around the house, adult situations, and Oh, my God! sex scenes. I will not censor him; I want to promote an environment where he can read books and dialogue about the books. We already talk about movies and things he has read; even things we do not agree with and why.
Oh, and Josh, a great blog would be a list of some of these books already translated into English . . . . .?
Peace
about 4 months ago
Yeah, that’s a good idea, I’ll try to get together such a list.
about 4 months ago
Complaining about the sex in “Little Brother” is like complaining about the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition when there are Playboy magazines on the same shelf. There are plenty of YA novels featuring sex much more prominently than “Little Brother” – and not just novels written in non-English European languages.
“Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist” features an “almost” sex scene between the two protagonists that’s far more explicit that the one in Little Brother. “Straight Road to Kylie” – sex scene between two eighteen year olds plus plenty of drinking. “How I Live now” – sex between two 15 year old cousins. “The Amber Spyglass” revolves around the sexual awakening of two characters who are all of about 13 or 14. Half of the novels Australian author John Marsden has written feature sex between teenagers.
A more valid criticism of “Little Brother” IMO, is that Cory Doctorow gets so carried away with his agenda that half the novel reads like a textbook (“We interrupt your regularly scheduled plot for a short lesson in the history of cryptography”). He writes with the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
about 4 months ago
Found the book, I shall enjoy reading it.
I’m glad the world is starting to wake up to what the neo-cons have done to us.
I fear it is to late to reverse it, when did any state vote to reduce their powers ?
When do turkeys vote for xmas ?
But if kids can be informed of what’s going on perhaps they will pick up the baton of freedom.
Josh I know we English are the most watched people on Earth but we have a general election coming and David Davies in particular is a freedom fighter, so all is not lost. Everywhere people have been scared by the “war on terror”, re-read 1984 and you’ll see where our “politcal elite” got their ideas from. The world’s been screwed by Bliar & Bush, two political pygmies you could’nt make it up.
about 4 months ago
“Smug eurofag.” Love it!
I wish I lived in a place about which I had nothing to criticize and could spend my time bashing some other homeland.
I think there are MANY things that people everywhere fear lots more than “freethinking youth”— like for example contemporary adult totalitarians who are able to write, think, and propagandize and have the funds to do it.
Yes, Europe is superior in every way. That’s why so many millions left her to find a better way somewhere else. It’s a work in progress. The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
about 4 months ago
The first people who left Europe to live in America were religious fundamentalists who couldn’t go somewhere else because no European country wanted them. So much for that lol
about 4 months ago
No, Josh, the early colonialists in the sixteenth century went from Europe to America to get rich (and to kill themselves a few indians). The Puritans in the early seventeenth century had their bitter conflicts with the allmighty Church of England. One of the more important clashes between the radical puritans and the church was the latters intention to pull marriage completely under the control of church legislation. The Puritans position was, that marriage basically was a civil arrangement and that the church law and the bishops courts should mind their own business and keep their sticky fingers away from marriage – which means – Rock of ages !! – that the Pilgrim fathers in certain important aspects had a more civil and secular wiev on marriage than the swedish gay movement of today. (I am swedish, so I know how the arguments in this matter has been going for the last years.)
Now that´s a lovely piece of historical irony – isn´t it?
about 4 months ago
Any more clichés you care to peddle?
about 4 months ago
gorgik: Don’t confuse the boy with facts. He’s got his own agenda.
about 4 months ago
Not to rain on anyone’s pre-arranged “smug eurofag” parade, but the first Europeans in the “New World” were most likely either Irish monks or Viking adventurers. For neither of which was religion a major impetus. Next on the list were the Spanish and Portuguese for whom gold was the major draw and God a distinct and distant second. Then there were the English “gentleman adventurers” who tried to settle coastal Virginia. So there were quite a few forerunners of the puritans— Johnny-come-latelies actually— so loved by agenda-driven America-bashers.
But carry on anyway, Josh and Co. Your ignorance makes for a good laugh. That is what LOL stands for, isn’t it?)
about 4 months ago
I was talking about the people who founded what we now as the USA now — which were the pilgrims, not the Vikings nor the conquistadors.
about 4 months ago
It’s interesting how the topic drifted from how some people react (vitupritively) to certain books when they see them as not conforming to their standards. I think the US is bigger on burning books than the Canadians.
As to who settled north america first, I think it was a tribe from the territory currently called the Russia, although there are some who think we may have been tribes who reached south america from africa.
about 4 months ago
The US is DEFINITELY a bigger offender when it comes to book burning than Canada. No question. Say Hi to Pastor Marc Grizzard in North Carolina: http://www.amazinggracebaptistchurchkjv.com/Download99.html – it’s his latest book burning warning: offensive Christian website complete with annoying music). He and his 14 church members had a good ole bookburning over Halloween.
about 4 months ago
I agree with you Josh & yet authors like FLB get published despite the sex scenes she puts in her books because she makes the money. The only thing that matters in America is money and religion.
about 4 months ago
I heartily agree with the idea proposed in the title of this post. Teen sex belongs in teen lit, and censorship is namby-pamby bullshit and thought control.
I’d like to apologize in advance to any thin-skinned nationalists, including but not limited to my own countrymen, for saying anything remotely offensive about whatever freedom-hating shit hole they happen to hail from. Thank you.
about 4 months ago
Of course teen sex belongs in teen lit – but why should teens only read some specialized “teen lit”? I do understand why there´s literature specially written for small children, but when it comes to teenagers I suspect that it´s most about moral control and feeding some stupid kind of cultural bureaucracy.
Beeing 15-18 in my view is the perfect age to start reading Dostojevskij and finding out that “Crime and Punishment” is the best crime novel ever written. And if you want something very, very, very sexy and erotic – try Samuel R Delany or why not Guy Davenport.