Comments on: Tadzio http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/ The Boys Blog Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:32:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=9ef0835e1683e12438db3e1be470278a&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/5dd2b890751e1dd.png" alt="Rundy Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Rundy http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8922 Rundy Identicon Icon Rundy Wed, 14 May 2008 17:27:23 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8922 May there, pray, be ever more Tadzio soon! May there, pray, be ever more Tadzio soon!

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]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3c21ee984c8d59425211a829738fdf7f&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/dd1f8c9b3799925.png" alt="michael814 Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> michael814 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8789 michael814 Identicon Icon michael814 Tue, 13 May 2008 13:00:51 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8789 Come on, guys. This was one of the most beautiful movies with the most beautiful boy ever. I'm sure we can all relate. Tell me you never saw someone so outrageously beautiful that you didn't turn to look or even follow him. I have. Almost every day. Come on, guys.
This was one of the most beautiful movies with the most beautiful boy ever.
I’m sure we can all relate.
Tell me you never saw someone so outrageously beautiful that you didn’t turn to look or even follow him.
I have. Almost every day.

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]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=19c936cd4f33c359cfa18e12bac2e257&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/1701c22ad6aef78.png" alt="Gebes Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Gebes http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8375 Gebes Identicon Icon Gebes Fri, 09 May 2008 11:28:16 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8375 A great plot. Thanks for sharing it with us. Ahhhhhhhh youth, beauty and the dreams.................................................. A great plot. Thanks for sharing it with us. Ahhhhhhhh youth, beauty and the dreams…………………………………………..

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=0d9f7ea3566031321b398199d4e016f9&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/c4ba610f160b404.png" alt="Summerson Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Summerson http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8279 Summerson Identicon Icon Summerson Thu, 08 May 2008 17:03:07 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8279 Lucian I stand corrected lol. Though Marlon Brando ummm :) The younger version..naturally! Lucian
I stand corrected lol. Though Marlon Brando ummm :) The younger version..naturally!

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There is also a great Benjamin Britten Opera of ‘Death In Venice’:
http://www.amazon.com/Britten-Venice-Jenkins-Glyndebourne-Festival/dp/156127044X
The dance scenes are spectacular.
Lukas

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]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f36b77bd2801365c6b471d5bfd40609f&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/7d6769e3ffe4226.png" alt="Deejohn Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Deejohn http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8208 Deejohn Identicon Icon Deejohn Thu, 08 May 2008 04:29:05 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/tadzio/#comment-8208 It seems that the Director Visconti had problems raising the money for the whole film project. When he asked Hollywood for some backing money Visconti was told that he would have to change the boys role to that of a girl, thereby creating the Lolita syndrome again. A boy Lolita was too taboo for mainstream America. Visconti rejected Hollywood's offer. And thank God he did. I thought Bjorn was perfectly cast. But it did seem rather comical that the German actor Helmut Berger, as beautiful as he was, thought that he should have been given the role of Tadzio. After 'Venice' Bogarde thought he could achieve no more. In Venice he had reached his pinnacle. And what great choices of music for the film. Oooh that Mahler's Fifth Symphony. That worked so well as Bogarde tried to flee Venice. As tears filled his eyes while escaping in the gondola, he realized the awful truth that he was in love with Tadzio. One of the film's many high points. 'Death in Venice' A tour de force. It seems that the Director Visconti had problems raising the money for the whole film project. When he asked Hollywood for some backing money Visconti was told that he would have to change the boys role to that of a girl, thereby creating the Lolita syndrome again. A boy Lolita was too taboo for mainstream America.
Visconti rejected Hollywood’s offer. And thank God he did. I thought Bjorn was perfectly cast. But it did seem rather comical that the German actor Helmut Berger, as beautiful as he was, thought that he should have been given the role of Tadzio.
After ‘Venice’ Bogarde thought he could achieve no more. In Venice he had reached his pinnacle.
And what great choices of music for the film. Oooh that Mahler’s Fifth Symphony. That worked so well as Bogarde tried to flee Venice. As tears filled his eyes while escaping in the gondola, he realized the awful truth that he was in love with Tadzio. One of the film’s many high points.
‘Death in Venice’ A tour de force.

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myself maybe ;) ? lOl

and sorry I dont particulary like this kind of old movie

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Apocalypse Now is based (at least nominally) on Conrad’s Heart of Darkness, rather than on anything by Mann. Still, Conrad and Mann are of roughly the same literary movement, and both novellas are shot through with Nietzsche - Death in Venice with the Apollonian/Dionysian dichotomy, Heart of Darkness (arguably) with the notion of the Übermensch – so I suppose tenuous parallels can be drawn.

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i think Apocalypse Now was based on another novella by the same author. I’m afraid I found the boy rather feminine too though I have fond memories of watching a “gay” film late one night when my parents had gone to bed lol.

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And I thought the boy had a nice package.

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He is in love with the youth and the beauty of the boy, but these things are unattainable to him. The movie portrays the agony and the futility of his struggle to enter into a relationship with the god-like boy.

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Andresen btw is a music teacher in Sweden today. And he looks quite worn out and jaded. He never understood what he was doing beside the most wonderful Dirk Bogarde. He was just being beautiful, that’s all.

@starboy: THANKS!! :-)

Max

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