Comments on: My Lonesome Cowboy http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/ The Boys Blog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:33:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Walther http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-36644 Walther Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:57:55 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-36644 I often wonder why - regarding this subject - history is more often than not forgotten. If you would like to see some beautiful boys in their much deserved historical context, you should visit this gallery: http://www.veltmaete.nl/ho-pais-kalos/ This statue is in it, on the last page. I often wonder why – regarding this subject – history is more often than not forgotten. If you would like to see some beautiful boys in their much deserved historical context, you should visit this gallery: http://www.veltmaete.nl/ho-pais-kalos/ This statue is in it, on the last page.

]]> By: » mylonesomecowboy http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-32409 » mylonesomecowboy Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:28:49 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-32409 [...] first saw this sculpture on Milkboys quite some time ago, Josh had written a piece (click here to view his article and see a small video) about it and of course all of the controversy it created in [...] [...] first saw this sculpture on Milkboys quite some time ago, Josh had written a piece (click here to view his article and see a small video) about it and of course all of the controversy it created in [...]

]]> By: Sharkboyadmirer http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-19833 Sharkboyadmirer Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:30:39 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-19833 I am not turned on by this statue but I do indeed L I K E it. It looks like a piece of fun and silliness and colorful and the come as lasso is too silly but as funny as the milk girl nearby. I am not turned on by this statue but I do indeed L I K E it. It looks like a piece of fun and silliness and colorful and the come as lasso is too silly but as funny as the milk girl nearby.

]]> By: j-No http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18812 j-No Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:58:50 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18812 Thanks for linking my photo, though it appears some could not access it. The direct link is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/j-no/2491509157/ Thanks for linking my photo, though it appears some could not access it.
The direct link is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/j-no/2491509157/

]]> By: oaksong http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18701 oaksong Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:15:14 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18701 I'd say the figure is hardly that of a child. In ancient Greece you were an adult at the age of 14, when most boys reached puberty. The US has a pretty fucked up view of child sexuality, as was mentioned in a previous post. The statue is both beautiful and interesting. No one's mentioned that the circle of cum forms a lasso. Wonder what he's trying to rope? Wasn't the auction held in July? I’d say the figure is hardly that of a child. In ancient Greece you were an adult at the age of 14, when most boys reached puberty. The US has a pretty fucked up view of child sexuality, as was mentioned in a previous post. The statue is both beautiful and interesting. No one’s mentioned that the circle of cum forms a lasso. Wonder what he’s trying to rope?

Wasn’t the auction held in July?

]]> By: Taylor http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18653 Taylor Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:13:04 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18653 I'd Swallow it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’d Swallow it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Antagonyst http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18652 Antagonyst Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:34:36 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18652 @RandyShota I didn't say I was offended. That's not true at all. On the contrary, I really do like this work of art and I always thought that society is overreacting when it comes to children and sexuality. As a matter of fact, I myself had several sexual encounters whith friends around my age when I was a child and I see absolutely no problem, as long as it stays between kids having their first sex experiences. Of course, I'm sure that the production of this artwork didn't involve actual children who would be abused in the process, I simply wondered why no one of this overreacting society was offended yet. I am glad if there is no offence taken by the public, as I said, I was just expecting so. I find your knowledge and interest in this topic very impressive and certainly agree with you. @RandyShota

I didn’t say I was offended. That’s not true at all. On the contrary, I really do like this work of art and I always thought that society is overreacting when it comes to children and sexuality. As a matter of fact, I myself had several sexual encounters whith friends around my age when I was a child and I see absolutely no problem, as long as it stays between kids having their first sex experiences.

Of course, I’m sure that the production of this artwork didn’t involve actual children who would be abused in the process, I simply wondered why no one of this overreacting society was offended yet. I am glad if there is no offence taken by the public, as I said, I was just expecting so.

I find your knowledge and interest in this topic very impressive and certainly agree with you.

]]> By: Paul in CT http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18645 Paul in CT Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:19:59 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18645 check out http://www.moca.org/murakami/# for a tour of this and other works by the artist. check out http://www.moca.org/murakami/# for a tour of this and other works by the artist.

]]> By: Morrigans http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18635 Morrigans Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:06:04 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18635 Does anyone have a rearside view of him? Just out of curiosity, of course... Year, that's it, "Curiosity!" On the other hand, I don't think anyone here would complain if he created a sex doll Version of his art. Sex dolls should have an appealing look to them, after all... Does anyone have a rearside view of him? Just out of curiosity, of course… Year, that’s it, “Curiosity!”

On the other hand, I don’t think anyone here would complain if he created a sex doll Version of his art. Sex dolls should have an appealing look to them, after all…

]]> By: RandyShota http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/comment-page-1/#comment-18618 RandyShota Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:21:24 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/my-lonesome-cowboy/#comment-18618 Odd that you guys would call this child pornography and/or be offended by it. Child pornography is not illegal because it is offensive, obscene, or "gross". It's illegal because it requires the exploitation of children in order to be produced and creating a demand for it would encourage people to abuse children by forcing them into participating. This statue obviously involved (as far as anyone can tell) no actual children. There is therefore no reason whatsoever for it to be considered in the same class as child pornography, and no reason for it to be illegal. The idea of child sexuality was not even a particularly controversial one before the mid-1990s. Roseanne Barr is the primary source of everything we think today about child sexuality. Before her, everyone knew children had a primitive sexual side limited to raw sensuality. They saw relations between adults and children as potentially abusive because of the power differential, but accepted that if it WASNT a product of coercion, that the idea of psychological harm from any sexual activity was ludicrous. People going insane from rubbing bodies together? It just doesn't make any sense. But then Roseanne, one of the most well-known celebrities around at the time, came out with her story of long-repressed childhood rape. Make no mistake, it was rape for certain. But her argument was that since children are too stupid to be able to consent, that even if the child believed they wanted it to happen, it was still rape, and every single problem they ever encountered for the rest of their life could be blamed on those experiences. Alcoholic at 45? Blame your cousin you gave a blowjob to when you were 8 and he was 12. Wreck your car at 60? Blame your aunts best friend who laid you at 13. Etc. She, and other commentators in the media who were obsessed with child sexuality as a moral issue, started around this idea that "children are not sexual creatures." It is a ludicrous idea. We have VIDEOS of fetuses masturbating in the womb. Every mother of a boy knows that they get boners from birth. Every parent has seen their little girl rubbing her vagina and clitoris. Now, when parents see it happen, they leap on their children and take them to therapists, insisting they must have been molested. That is how completely they accepted this harmful "children are not sexual creatures" idea. You guys betray having accepted that falsehood yourselves, believing that a statue of a boy masturbating to be offensive or whatever. Boys masturbate, it's what they DO. In addition, it's one of the most healthy activities a person can engage in. To do anything short of wholeheartedly encouraging kids to masturbate is to show a desire not just to ignore, but to harm their sexuality. Parents see the imaginary "pedophile menace" (look at the stats, pedophilia is very rare, and ephebophilia is not the same thing, look it up) as competition. They believe they should have complete control over their child as if it were property and not a human being. They believe that, as men "owned" the sexuality of their children in the past and sold their daughters for dowrys and the like, that today they have the right to castrate their children. Being raised in such a harmful and neglected manner, it is not surprising they grow up unable to even consider the issues surrounding the sexuality of youth and what should be done about a statue like this or "virtual" kiddie porn that they keep trying to make illegal (and failing... you really can't make imaginary stuff illegal, but people are in prison for violating those laws anyway because they couldn't afford to challenge the law that eventually was struck down). Odd that you guys would call this child pornography and/or be offended by it. Child pornography is not illegal because it is offensive, obscene, or “gross”. It’s illegal because it requires the exploitation of children in order to be produced and creating a demand for it would encourage people to abuse children by forcing them into participating. This statue obviously involved (as far as anyone can tell) no actual children. There is therefore no reason whatsoever for it to be considered in the same class as child pornography, and no reason for it to be illegal.

The idea of child sexuality was not even a particularly controversial one before the mid-1990s. Roseanne Barr is the primary source of everything we think today about child sexuality. Before her, everyone knew children had a primitive sexual side limited to raw sensuality. They saw relations between adults and children as potentially abusive because of the power differential, but accepted that if it WASNT a product of coercion, that the idea of psychological harm from any sexual activity was ludicrous. People going insane from rubbing bodies together? It just doesn’t make any sense.

But then Roseanne, one of the most well-known celebrities around at the time, came out with her story of long-repressed childhood rape. Make no mistake, it was rape for certain. But her argument was that since children are too stupid to be able to consent, that even if the child believed they wanted it to happen, it was still rape, and every single problem they ever encountered for the rest of their life could be blamed on those experiences. Alcoholic at 45? Blame your cousin you gave a blowjob to when you were 8 and he was 12. Wreck your car at 60? Blame your aunts best friend who laid you at 13. Etc.

She, and other commentators in the media who were obsessed with child sexuality as a moral issue, started around this idea that “children are not sexual creatures.” It is a ludicrous idea. We have VIDEOS of fetuses masturbating in the womb. Every mother of a boy knows that they get boners from birth. Every parent has seen their little girl rubbing her vagina and clitoris. Now, when parents see it happen, they leap on their children and take them to therapists, insisting they must have been molested. That is how completely they accepted this harmful “children are not sexual creatures” idea.

You guys betray having accepted that falsehood yourselves, believing that a statue of a boy masturbating to be offensive or whatever. Boys masturbate, it’s what they DO. In addition, it’s one of the most healthy activities a person can engage in. To do anything short of wholeheartedly encouraging kids to masturbate is to show a desire not just to ignore, but to harm their sexuality. Parents see the imaginary “pedophile menace” (look at the stats, pedophilia is very rare, and ephebophilia is not the same thing, look it up) as competition. They believe they should have complete control over their child as if it were property and not a human being. They believe that, as men “owned” the sexuality of their children in the past and sold their daughters for dowrys and the like, that today they have the right to castrate their children. Being raised in such a harmful and neglected manner, it is not surprising they grow up unable to even consider the issues surrounding the sexuality of youth and what should be done about a statue like this or “virtual” kiddie porn that they keep trying to make illegal (and failing… you really can’t make imaginary stuff illegal, but people are in prison for violating those laws anyway because they couldn’t afford to challenge the law that eventually was struck down).

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