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		<title>By: ferveoimagine</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/kids-smash-gender-roles/comment-page-1/#comment-37908</link>
		<dc:creator>ferveoimagine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t quite understand your post. You say &quot;MALES are supposed to be the best and fittest&quot; therefore implying that they sometimes aren&#039;t. To me it sounds like you acknowledge the presence of people not comforming to gender identity, but you dislike it. Forgive me if I am incorrect. 

Humankind is a natural creation, whether you believe in evolution or creationism we are all natural. All creatures upon the earth are natural creations and whatever they do are also considered natural. The beavers&#039; dam, the birds nest, they all adapt to suit their environment. When the New Zealand Kiwi or Kapapo birds forgot how to fly and walked everywhere they weren&#039;t considers abhorations of nature. They were more vulnerable as prey perhaps, which has endeared them to us compasionate humans. Of course, there are still some who hunt them for their downy feathers. But most importantly we don&#039;t condemn them for diverging against nature, as we know it&#039;s just nature sometimes makes birds that don&#039;t need to fly. 

Humans are a the point that we don&#039;t need to fornicate for the pure reason of offspring. Gay couples may still feel the want to raise a kid, as does the Kakapo still jump out of trees thinking it can fly. 

My point being that as Humans, we are natural and gender roles is natural; yes, but we must also remember that nature will take different steps in times of plenty or of famine. The question that we are all on here is why do some people find it hard to accept natural deviation, whether gender roles, or sexuality. It&#039;s no different from the flightless birds of Africa or New Zealand, or the Penguins of the Arctic. It&#039;s microevolution at its finest. Look it up if you are unsure to what that means.

SOURCES: 
Stephen Fry&#039;s &#039;Last Chance to See&#039; Ep 5.
Microevolution: http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Evolution_vs._Creation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand your post. You say &#8220;MALES are supposed to be the best and fittest&#8221; therefore implying that they sometimes aren&#8217;t. To me it sounds like you acknowledge the presence of people not comforming to gender identity, but you dislike it. Forgive me if I am incorrect. </p>
<p>Humankind is a natural creation, whether you believe in evolution or creationism we are all natural. All creatures upon the earth are natural creations and whatever they do are also considered natural. The beavers&#8217; dam, the birds nest, they all adapt to suit their environment. When the New Zealand Kiwi or Kapapo birds forgot how to fly and walked everywhere they weren&#8217;t considers abhorations of nature. They were more vulnerable as prey perhaps, which has endeared them to us compasionate humans. Of course, there are still some who hunt them for their downy feathers. But most importantly we don&#8217;t condemn them for diverging against nature, as we know it&#8217;s just nature sometimes makes birds that don&#8217;t need to fly. </p>
<p>Humans are a the point that we don&#8217;t need to fornicate for the pure reason of offspring. Gay couples may still feel the want to raise a kid, as does the Kakapo still jump out of trees thinking it can fly. </p>
<p>My point being that as Humans, we are natural and gender roles is natural; yes, but we must also remember that nature will take different steps in times of plenty or of famine. The question that we are all on here is why do some people find it hard to accept natural deviation, whether gender roles, or sexuality. It&#8217;s no different from the flightless birds of Africa or New Zealand, or the Penguins of the Arctic. It&#8217;s microevolution at its finest. Look it up if you are unsure to what that means.</p>
<p>SOURCES:<br />
Stephen Fry&#8217;s &#8216;Last Chance to See&#8217; Ep 5.<br />
Microevolution: <a href="http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Evolution_vs._Creation" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Evolution_vs._Creation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Taitrnator</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/kids-smash-gender-roles/comment-page-1/#comment-37899</link>
		<dc:creator>Taitrnator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, and I think it takes an idealistic person with a lot of free time to criticize something as simple as this. People really need to chill out in these issues. Its obnoxious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, and I think it takes an idealistic person with a lot of free time to criticize something as simple as this. People really need to chill out in these issues. Its obnoxious</p>
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		<title>By: Blondie</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/kids-smash-gender-roles/comment-page-1/#comment-37875</link>
		<dc:creator>Blondie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, this was actually my first post on here so I am quite happy with this reply.

Yeah, I think they also see &quot;weakness&quot; as not manly or abnormal for a guy, the other day a friend (or more ex-friend) commented on a picture where I had put on these black and pink cat ears and had make-up &quot;whiskers&quot;, he basically asked why did I feel the need to be so feminine, like it shouldn&#039;t be and like I chose to rather than actually that&#039;s who I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, this was actually my first post on here so I am quite happy with this reply.</p>
<p>Yeah, I think they also see &#8220;weakness&#8221; as not manly or abnormal for a guy, the other day a friend (or more ex-friend) commented on a picture where I had put on these black and pink cat ears and had make-up &#8220;whiskers&#8221;, he basically asked why did I feel the need to be so feminine, like it shouldn&#8217;t be and like I chose to rather than actually that&#8217;s who I am.</p>
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		<title>By: MOrtuis</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/kids-smash-gender-roles/comment-page-1/#comment-37853</link>
		<dc:creator>MOrtuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I most of the time LURK here on the site but i had to post to this one.  What everyone here is forgetting we as a species of animals are here to do one thing REPRODUCE and continue the species.  MALES are supposed to be the best and fittest and most intelligent and strut it to attract the best and fittest and most intelligent females and reproduce to continue the species. 

This explains why the gender rolls do exist and why they will probably always will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I most of the time LURK here on the site but i had to post to this one.  What everyone here is forgetting we as a species of animals are here to do one thing REPRODUCE and continue the species.  MALES are supposed to be the best and fittest and most intelligent and strut it to attract the best and fittest and most intelligent females and reproduce to continue the species. </p>
<p>This explains why the gender rolls do exist and why they will probably always will.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most places in the world a 13 year old who doesn&#039;t conform to gender stereotypes cops shit. It&#039;s good when 13 year olds question this, see something in mainstream culture that reinforces those stereotypes, and challenge it. 

Unfortunately their immature brains don&#039;t understand the reality of changing the behaviour of a U.S.-based global corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most places in the world a 13 year old who doesn&#8217;t conform to gender stereotypes cops shit. It&#8217;s good when 13 year olds question this, see something in mainstream culture that reinforces those stereotypes, and challenge it. </p>
<p>Unfortunately their immature brains don&#8217;t understand the reality of changing the behaviour of a U.S.-based global corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: What</title>
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		<dc:creator>What</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people here are saying that boys and girls are born with a natural gender, but that isn&#039;t true at all. Actually, gender isn&#039;t set &#039;til about 2, and if you ask a young child if it is a boy or a girl, it will often switch the answer. Once as it reaches 2 it almost always has understood the difference between boys and girls, but gender is still being set.
During that time we will often use many methods to push children in one direction or the other. For example, if you put a brother and sister around the same age in a room with their parents and give the children both the same puzzle, the parents will start to help the girl out faster and more often than the boy.
As playtime is often when we set gender roles on children, our toys show this often. Girls will get toys and play games that show submissiveness and caretaking such as Barbie, Easybake Ovens, Babydolls, and all of the games where the prince saves the princess. Boys get toys that show independence, knowledge, and violence such as army men, books, and math games (well, at least when inteligence was still &quot;popular&quot;). These toys tell the children what we want of them and what their functions are in life. Girls are there to cook, take care of the children, and look pretty while boys are there to fight, get jobs, and further themselves. Many developmental psychologists are starting to say that we should be mixing the toys among the sexes so that all children get the best toys for preparation in life (the babydolls, ovens, books, etc.)
The ways that we play with our children influence their relationships with others also. Boys and girls all play games that can be social, but boys play games where they connect over the game (baseball, videogames...), and girls play games where they connect over conversation (shopping with their dolls as avatars, tea parties...). When you put two boys in a room with two chairs facing one way, their playtime learning causes them to react by sitting in the chairs, facing the wall, and start talking about objects in the room. When you do the same with girls, they will pick up the chairs, turn them to each other, and talk about each other. Girls will also have the tendency to use &quot;me too&quot; and &quot;mine too&quot; as connectors in conversation, even if they aren&#039;t true. For example, if one girl says her mother wears glasses, the other will often say &quot;mine too,&quot; even if her mother doesn&#039;t. They aren&#039;t lying for any bad reasons, they do this to have even more to connect each other.

Now, some will say that boys and girls will end up this way no matter what you do, and it is easy to believe. Due to mass media almost all cultures have the same ideals of gender roles, so it is hard to find any cultures which can disprove the theory, but there are two examples which can be used.
The first is a tribe in Africa (if I find my notes, I&#039;ll tell you the name). In this tribe, the women are actually the hunters. Almost all girls in this tribe show the same behavior as the typical Western boy, and the boys show the opposite. This is because the tribe has been largely separated from outside cultures, so there was no one there to tell them which sex should be doing the hunting. When they decided to have the women hunt, their gender roles changed accordingly. Unluckily it is hard to find tribes such as these because the way the sexes are physically made make men slightly stronger than women naturally, so they are often chosen as the hunters, which leads to masculine males. But as with the rest of humanity, you will always get variances, and this tribe decided that females were better hunters, leading to masculine females.
The second example I can name is an experimental grade school in California one of my teachers taught at. At the school, boys and girls were encouraged to wear whatever they wanted and play with whatever they wanted (all parents were taught to be open to gender variances before the school started). During play time boys and girls would play the same sports in the same groups, and things such as fingernail painting were taught to all students to teach dexterity. While the students originally all conformed to typical gender roles, once as the gender barriers were removed, the students started to show far more gender variances. There were many masculine, feminine, and androgynous genders in all of the sexes, which is very uncommon in schools where gender and sex is taught to match.

Oh, and if you thought all of that was too much typing, I spent far too much on college and have so far learned a lot of pointless shit, so I like being able to use the rare, important education whenever I can. Although I guess that run-on sentence just killed all of my English education, didn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people here are saying that boys and girls are born with a natural gender, but that isn&#8217;t true at all. Actually, gender isn&#8217;t set &#8217;til about 2, and if you ask a young child if it is a boy or a girl, it will often switch the answer. Once as it reaches 2 it almost always has understood the difference between boys and girls, but gender is still being set.<br />
During that time we will often use many methods to push children in one direction or the other. For example, if you put a brother and sister around the same age in a room with their parents and give the children both the same puzzle, the parents will start to help the girl out faster and more often than the boy.<br />
As playtime is often when we set gender roles on children, our toys show this often. Girls will get toys and play games that show submissiveness and caretaking such as Barbie, Easybake Ovens, Babydolls, and all of the games where the prince saves the princess. Boys get toys that show independence, knowledge, and violence such as army men, books, and math games (well, at least when inteligence was still &#8220;popular&#8221;). These toys tell the children what we want of them and what their functions are in life. Girls are there to cook, take care of the children, and look pretty while boys are there to fight, get jobs, and further themselves. Many developmental psychologists are starting to say that we should be mixing the toys among the sexes so that all children get the best toys for preparation in life (the babydolls, ovens, books, etc.)<br />
The ways that we play with our children influence their relationships with others also. Boys and girls all play games that can be social, but boys play games where they connect over the game (baseball, videogames&#8230;), and girls play games where they connect over conversation (shopping with their dolls as avatars, tea parties&#8230;). When you put two boys in a room with two chairs facing one way, their playtime learning causes them to react by sitting in the chairs, facing the wall, and start talking about objects in the room. When you do the same with girls, they will pick up the chairs, turn them to each other, and talk about each other. Girls will also have the tendency to use &#8220;me too&#8221; and &#8220;mine too&#8221; as connectors in conversation, even if they aren&#8217;t true. For example, if one girl says her mother wears glasses, the other will often say &#8220;mine too,&#8221; even if her mother doesn&#8217;t. They aren&#8217;t lying for any bad reasons, they do this to have even more to connect each other.</p>
<p>Now, some will say that boys and girls will end up this way no matter what you do, and it is easy to believe. Due to mass media almost all cultures have the same ideals of gender roles, so it is hard to find any cultures which can disprove the theory, but there are two examples which can be used.<br />
The first is a tribe in Africa (if I find my notes, I&#8217;ll tell you the name). In this tribe, the women are actually the hunters. Almost all girls in this tribe show the same behavior as the typical Western boy, and the boys show the opposite. This is because the tribe has been largely separated from outside cultures, so there was no one there to tell them which sex should be doing the hunting. When they decided to have the women hunt, their gender roles changed accordingly. Unluckily it is hard to find tribes such as these because the way the sexes are physically made make men slightly stronger than women naturally, so they are often chosen as the hunters, which leads to masculine males. But as with the rest of humanity, you will always get variances, and this tribe decided that females were better hunters, leading to masculine females.<br />
The second example I can name is an experimental grade school in California one of my teachers taught at. At the school, boys and girls were encouraged to wear whatever they wanted and play with whatever they wanted (all parents were taught to be open to gender variances before the school started). During play time boys and girls would play the same sports in the same groups, and things such as fingernail painting were taught to all students to teach dexterity. While the students originally all conformed to typical gender roles, once as the gender barriers were removed, the students started to show far more gender variances. There were many masculine, feminine, and androgynous genders in all of the sexes, which is very uncommon in schools where gender and sex is taught to match.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you thought all of that was too much typing, I spent far too much on college and have so far learned a lot of pointless shit, so I like being able to use the rare, important education whenever I can. Although I guess that run-on sentence just killed all of my English education, didn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: ferveoimagine</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferveoimagine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. Everyone has a masculine and feminine side, and one is often stronger than the other. Males are sometimes too fearful and insecure of themselves to let that otherside show. It works for some, but others think that to show your true self to the world is weakness and as such proclaim loudly that we should be this way and everything else should be quashed out of existance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. Everyone has a masculine and feminine side, and one is often stronger than the other. Males are sometimes too fearful and insecure of themselves to let that otherside show. It works for some, but others think that to show your true self to the world is weakness and as such proclaim loudly that we should be this way and everything else should be quashed out of existance.</p>
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		<title>By: Blondie</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/kids-smash-gender-roles/comment-page-1/#comment-37803</link>
		<dc:creator>Blondie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always hated the whole manly guy thing, it&#039;s so annoying the idea that you must be sporty you must wear blue (a colour I hate), you must be the very best, the quickest, the strongest, have the biggest penis, ok some of this is for later in life than what this article is about but that is my own personal hatreds of these gender roles, and these kids brought up in these roles are going to then be forced to continue these roles in later life.

I am a guy, I would say I am fairly feminine, my name, Blondie is what a friend decided is my girl&#039;s name so now I am quite fond of it, I also like really romantic stuff or really emotional stuff but at the same time I am tall, broad shouldered, deep voiced and the other day I got an injury from playing bass too much, I have a masculine side and a feminine side, I would of loved to not of have been brought up with this gender role society and free to be myself and so should everyone, we are not all the same, we are all different and so we should be allowed to be.

Saying this not sure whether making the complaint was the right move but then again what is the right move? I hope someone smarter than me works it out and executes it. By the way, cute pic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always hated the whole manly guy thing, it&#8217;s so annoying the idea that you must be sporty you must wear blue (a colour I hate), you must be the very best, the quickest, the strongest, have the biggest penis, ok some of this is for later in life than what this article is about but that is my own personal hatreds of these gender roles, and these kids brought up in these roles are going to then be forced to continue these roles in later life.</p>
<p>I am a guy, I would say I am fairly feminine, my name, Blondie is what a friend decided is my girl&#8217;s name so now I am quite fond of it, I also like really romantic stuff or really emotional stuff but at the same time I am tall, broad shouldered, deep voiced and the other day I got an injury from playing bass too much, I have a masculine side and a feminine side, I would of loved to not of have been brought up with this gender role society and free to be myself and so should everyone, we are not all the same, we are all different and so we should be allowed to be.</p>
<p>Saying this not sure whether making the complaint was the right move but then again what is the right move? I hope someone smarter than me works it out and executes it. By the way, cute pic.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evolution at work. As stupid aggressive people kill them selves off mankind should finally see the day when nobody will say &quot;Watch This&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolution at work. As stupid aggressive people kill them selves off mankind should finally see the day when nobody will say &#8220;Watch This&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://blog.milkboys.org/article/kids-smash-gender-roles/comment-page-1/#comment-37782</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouTube is full of people of all ages doing stupid and dangerous things, not just teenagers. It&#039;s entirely likely there are more videos of teenagers, but I think this would reflect more on the YouTube demographic rather than society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouTube is full of people of all ages doing stupid and dangerous things, not just teenagers. It&#8217;s entirely likely there are more videos of teenagers, but I think this would reflect more on the YouTube demographic rather than society.</p>
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