Comments on: Hardly Anne Frank http://blog.milkboys.org/article/hardly-anne-frank/ The Boys Blog Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f7e58c1767d4ab8ed40d6813097d5e68&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/b5d9898808e1400.png" alt="Lukas Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Lukas http://blog.milkboys.org/article/hardly-anne-frank/#comment-5206 Lukas Identicon Icon Lukas Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:38:48 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/hardly-anne-frank/#comment-5206 Josh, For those of us who have been Boy Scouts or Hiking Troop Members the sex you described is common to us – the best reason to be one – the place and situation where most boys involved have their first sexual experiences. I am thinking back to the 1970’s on Henrietta Street in London where I found my first boy love literature in a book store just down from where Braden Powell had his first Boy Scout Office … hummmmm. Lukas Josh,
For those of us who have been Boy Scouts or Hiking Troop Members the sex you described is common to us – the best reason to be one – the place and situation where most boys involved have their first sexual experiences.

I am thinking back to the 1970’s on Henrietta Street in London where I found my first boy love literature in a book store just down from where Braden Powell had his first Boy Scout Office … hummmmm.
Lukas

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You ROCK!
Lukas

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lol - what reasoning ;D

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You RULE!
Lukas

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]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ed7790ef773abff9c417b9d1c194e987&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/c445aaaca500f47.png" alt="Raptorschwanz Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Raptorschwanz http://blog.milkboys.org/article/hardly-anne-frank/#comment-5064 Raptorschwanz Identicon Icon Raptorschwanz Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:53:55 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/hardly-anne-frank/#comment-5064 Like Tybo, I've also been reading Josh's blog for quite some time. (Hi, Tybo! Zoloft here.) Josh is nothing if not endearing, sincere, and genuine in what he writes. He's a good kid -- a bit scared, concerned with doing the right thing, unsure of himself, and trying to discover a more adult way of life. I really enjoy reading his blog -- more than a fair number of other blogs out there, quite honestly! His writing style is unique. He's hardly the first to have adopted a unique style as his own. Read <i>Portnoy's Complaint</i> (written in the 1960s) for one example of a completely unique narrative style that has -shock- been published and acclaimed. Another is Hubert Selby's <i>Requiem for a Dream</i> which I swear doesn't have a single period in the whole book. Point is: Josh's linguistic style is what it is. It doesn't make his story any different. It just changes the way it's told. Like when actors in a movie take on a different accent to, well, <i>accent</i> their performance. Whether Josh's language constructs are used unconsciously as matters of stylistic preference or more consciously to flavor his readers' perceptions only Josh knows. Like Tybo, I’ve also been reading Josh’s blog for quite some time. (Hi, Tybo! Zoloft here.) Josh is nothing if not endearing, sincere, and genuine in what he writes. He’s a good kid — a bit scared, concerned with doing the right thing, unsure of himself, and trying to discover a more adult way of life. I really enjoy reading his blog — more than a fair number of other blogs out there, quite honestly! His writing style is unique. He’s hardly the first to have adopted a unique style as his own. Read Portnoy’s Complaint (written in the 1960s) for one example of a completely unique narrative style that has -shock- been published and acclaimed. Another is Hubert Selby’s Requiem for a Dream which I swear doesn’t have a single period in the whole book.

Point is: Josh’s linguistic style is what it is. It doesn’t make his story any different. It just changes the way it’s told. Like when actors in a movie take on a different accent to, well, accent their performance. Whether Josh’s language constructs are used unconsciously as matters of stylistic preference or more consciously to flavor his readers’ perceptions only Josh knows.

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to stay in the context of teen-lingo: LOLZ ^^

I think thats exactly the impression I got from reading the stuff…

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it’s a good read, but it somehow always shines through, that the author desperately wants to fuck his main protagonist. ;) that’d be my mighty guess.

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I trust that he’s for real. I have no real evidence to support it; in the same way that the people who think its fake dont have any against it. I believe its just meant to be enjoyed; and i do enjoy it. I just upsets me that some people would rather analyse and criticise it, rather than just simply enjoy it for what it is.

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but i must really restrain me from thinking about it any further without actually reading that blog - i haven’t yet made it through more than 3, 4 entries. yikes.

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That’s why I’m thinking it’s real - cause I wonder why he should fake it.

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The quote used (about his encounter with Ben) is an unfair representation of the blog. He rarely writes anything that could be considdered ‘Nifty’ material; its usually about what he’s doing, his relationship with his friends, his hobby, and REAL life as a gay kid.
You guys really DO underestimate teens; sure, he’s quite a mature in what he writes about, but he also writes in a style very typical for teens in England (the words he uses, and the style obviously comes naturally, and is not faked).
I’ve followed the blog for a long time, and read it from the beginning. Its obvious it started out as a naughty little secret; a blog where he could open up, without the people close to him knowing. Its purpose was not to become a popular gay blog, in the way that it has; so what would be the point in faking it up?
Its a shame people just jump to the wrong conclusion and criticise based upon not much at all.

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yeah, it definitely is a fake. okay, todays teens love to blog/brag/vlog about every last bit of thing they experience, but not like that. sometimes, this “boy” writes in a somewhat self-ironic way, talks about his experiences like they are his second youth. he knows what it’s all about and what he has to pay attention to. no teen does that. if you live through something for the first time, you may be trying hard to make it look and sound like you’ve seen it all already, but the result isn’t that stereotypical.

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Its a sweet, honest account of a young gay lad, working it all out by himself. Coping with his sexuality, whilst still being in the closet (but still having a lot of fun by himself ;) )

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