Comments on: Dangerous Boys http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/ The Boys Blog Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:41:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=8effdd51a05730248f4b7e2675bb4487&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/ac609dc10ff1042.png" alt="Long Weekend Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Long Weekend http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-7555 Long Weekend Identicon Icon Long Weekend Fri, 02 May 2008 22:58:14 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-7555 Great rant! Thanks! Great rant! Thanks!

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=46af7c9406b8c677545e387091dcfdf4&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/ddde097cc71a65f.png" alt="Batz Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Batz http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-7056 Batz Identicon Icon Batz Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:53:43 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-7056 I would even go as far as claiming that teenage boys were the highest ideal of beauty for many centuries, even after the christianization of Europe. It seems that this has changed somewhere in the (bourgeois) 19th century, when they started to depict angels as women (see my homepage: http://home.arcor.de/berzelmayr/st-john.html). But in the first years of this century leading painters like Jacques Louis David were doing stuff like that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Jacques-Louis_David_004.jpg and that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Sabine_women.jpg It's ridiculous, when "mainstream gays" are now acting as if their tastes would represent the majority and that ephebophiles would be "the fringe". I would even go as far as claiming that teenage boys were the highest ideal of beauty for many centuries, even after the christianization of Europe. It seems that this has changed somewhere in the (bourgeois) 19th century, when they started to depict angels as women (see my homepage: http://home.arcor.de/berzelmayr/st-john.html). But in the first years of this century leading painters like Jacques Louis David were doing stuff like that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Jacques-Louis_David_004.jpg
and that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Sabine_women.jpg

It’s ridiculous, when “mainstream gays” are now acting as if their tastes would represent the majority and that ephebophiles would be “the fringe”.

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=da8aa2c705951b426610d0aff576649f&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/8faabf266530581.png" alt="james Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> james http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6932 james Identicon Icon james Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:31:41 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6932 i completely agree...in so many words i completely agree…in so many words

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=59d2e3d61b18d2a833bc02a6ca68ad86&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/93485850f77ba6a.png" alt="Uncle Sidney Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Uncle Sidney http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6902 Uncle Sidney Identicon Icon Uncle Sidney Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:28:20 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6902 Lukas! For heavens sakes get up. Thanks, but you don't have to do any of that stuff. Just sacrifice a few goats to me, and we'll call it a deal. Anyway I didn't mean to start a fist fight here. I just wanna see more naked boys hanging on walls is all. What's wrong with that? Btw Josh your page looks neat. It keeps getting better. Inkplum needs a face lift. Maybe you can give me a hand with that when you get time. Bless you all, and enjoy the spring, and summer! Lukas! For heavens sakes get up. Thanks, but you don’t have to do any of that stuff. Just sacrifice a few goats to me, and we’ll call it a deal.

Anyway I didn’t mean to start a fist fight here. I just wanna see more naked boys hanging on walls is all. What’s wrong with that? Btw Josh your page looks neat.

It keeps getting better.

Inkplum needs a face lift. Maybe you can give me a hand with that when you get time.

Bless you all, and enjoy the spring, and summer!

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You RULE — so glad to read your post today. Yes as Betty Boop says, ‘We should all go on our hands and knees and beg you to teach us.”
Lukas (on hands and knees)

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=23ae091820eaec1e45e024c7a29da2c4&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/f5736ae74414edd.png" alt="louisdijon Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> louisdijon http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6818 louisdijon Identicon Icon louisdijon Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:00:25 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6818 betty, i honestly don't unterstand what is so offensive about my post. maybe you care to elaborate. also, go on and enlighten us on gay history, i'd be all ears. i wrote about will mcbride, whose books center around exactly what the blogposts author talks about. his stuff unfortunately is being outlawed nowadays. betty, i honestly don’t unterstand what is so offensive about my post. maybe you care to elaborate. also, go on and enlighten us on gay history, i’d be all ears. i wrote about will mcbride, whose books center around exactly what the blogposts author talks about. his stuff unfortunately is being outlawed nowadays.

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=3ce19141f1e21d49aa3918e61a72a5f4&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/f3d5ccfe1e16f0c.png" alt="Betty Boop Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Betty Boop http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6804 Betty Boop Identicon Icon Betty Boop Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:26:53 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6804 Wow!!! There are some really ignorant people here. If some of you knew even a little of gay history, say more than what happened only in your mind for the last week, you wouldn't ask these questions. I'll tell you this, most of you should go on your hands and knees and beg Sidney to teach you what is going on in the world today and how it evolved into what it is. louisdijon, do your parents let you cross the street by yourself yet? Matt R., I can tell by your question that you buy into the whole "gay lie" carefully crafted by the sexual fascists of all genders since 1980. May you always be happy with your fantasies! Wow!!! There are some really ignorant people here. If some of you knew even a little of gay history, say more than what happened only in your mind for the last week, you wouldn’t ask these questions.

I’ll tell you this, most of you should go on your hands and knees and beg Sidney to teach you what is going on in the world today and how it evolved into what it is.

louisdijon, do your parents let you cross the street by yourself yet?

Matt R., I can tell by your question that you buy into the whole “gay lie” carefully crafted by the sexual fascists of all genders since 1980. May you always be happy with your fantasies!

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=abfe1a02bd9e9df13942d914e5881247&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/84f40e7b29ab1d8.png" alt="Matt R. Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Matt R. http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6802 Matt R. Identicon Icon Matt R. Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:01:33 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6802 Like Louisdijon I too don't understand what I.R. is accussing me of. Anyway, I was just reading a recent A.P. story about a television station in Singapore being fined for showing a gay couple with a baby. Gay sex is illegal in Singapore and any depiction of it which shows it as a normal lifestyle is not allowed. Being gay is hard enough in some places so perhaps throwing boys into the mix just isn't worth it to some people. Like Louisdijon I too don’t understand what I.R. is accussing me of. Anyway, I was just reading a recent A.P. story about a television station in Singapore being fined for showing a gay couple with a baby. Gay sex is illegal in Singapore and any depiction of it which shows it as a normal lifestyle is not allowed. Being gay is hard enough in some places so perhaps throwing boys into the mix just isn’t worth it to some people.

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=23ae091820eaec1e45e024c7a29da2c4&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/f5736ae74414edd.png" alt="louisdijon Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> louisdijon http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6763 louisdijon Identicon Icon louisdijon Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:17:05 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6763 mr. pagan, what do you mean by places in asia, which were able to distance themselves from ".." ? mr. pagan, what do you mean by places in asia, which were able to distance themselves from “..” ?

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=e2ce09893cd26e8d3fa1228a6c5d9dfa&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/436ef899422009e.png" alt="I. M. Pagan Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> I. M. Pagan http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6761 I. M. Pagan Identicon Icon I. M. Pagan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:29:58 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6761 Well, we have been in a moral hysteria over sex since the beginning of monotheism. But it really took off with the advent of the Christian era quickly followed by the Muslim era. The real tragedy is that these fucking bastards have been able to force their sexual fascism on the entire world. Not too long ago lots of places in Asia were able to distance them from this monotheistic moral hysteria. No longer. If some country tries to keep the Christian NGOs out they go crying to the UN or Bush that they are denied religious freedom. Religious freedom to them means making everyone follow their dogma. Even for the first half of the 20th century there were faint rays of hope in the West. No longer! It is a depressing sight to watch as I move around the globe. Well, we have been in a moral hysteria over sex since the beginning of monotheism. But it really took off with the advent of the Christian era quickly followed by the Muslim era.

The real tragedy is that these fucking bastards have been able to force their sexual fascism on the entire world. Not too long ago lots of places in Asia were able to distance them from this monotheistic moral hysteria. No longer. If some country tries to keep the Christian NGOs out they go crying to the UN or Bush that they are denied religious freedom. Religious freedom to them means making everyone follow their dogma.

Even for the first half of the 20th century there were faint rays of hope in the West. No longer! It is a depressing sight to watch as I move around the globe.

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=33be14fc16cf45ded691742771e615c6&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/57d77ba8208fd0b.png" alt="starboy 101 Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> starboy 101 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6756 starboy 101 Identicon Icon starboy 101 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:41:22 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6756 well the fun is the internet is there to SURF IT!!! It wouldnt be good if your average joe could just google naked boys ..and voila, than we would really b fucked and the EU and or USA would bann all boys material, because I am sure we r now in a religious conservative revival all thanx to extremist and more and more gets forbidden and watched!!.So lets look a little bit more and deeper on the net and the findings r more gratefying...FUCK YEAH!!GODDAMN BASTARDS anyway till next time, cheese and windmillcountry and grass..that kinda grass says bye bye STARBOY. FUCK EVERYDAY PEOPLE!!! well the fun is the internet is there to SURF IT!!! It wouldnt be good if your average joe could just google naked boys ..and voila, than we would really b fucked and the EU and or USA would bann all boys material, because I am sure we r now in a religious conservative revival all thanx to extremist and more and more gets forbidden and watched!!.So lets look a little bit more and deeper on the net and the findings r more gratefying…FUCK YEAH!!GODDAMN BASTARDS anyway till next time, cheese and windmillcountry and grass..that kinda grass says bye bye STARBOY. FUCK EVERYDAY PEOPLE!!!

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=23ae091820eaec1e45e024c7a29da2c4&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/f5736ae74414edd.png" alt="louisdijon Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> louisdijon http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6724 louisdijon Identicon Icon louisdijon Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:15:21 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6724 i can't find the things you'are accusing matt r. of doing. please explain further. it seems plausible to me that, as an artist who works with the beauty of the young, you eventually have to face such allegations. will mcbride for example is an artist whose main interest lies on boys, their coming of age, .. his "Show Me"-works about sex education for example, books he crafted with a child psychatrist, - while initially published in germany in the 70s by a katholic publisher (!) and praised for it's natural views (theoretical as well as visual) on the topic - nowadays are considered bare child pornography. in the usa it's illegal to own them, in europe, all publishers have ceased printing because of the ongoing moral hassle arount them. it's a shame, because the swiss psychiatrists' remarks on emotional development in the context of friendship, love and sex and family are a damn good read, just as how mcbrides pictures are great. i can’t find the things you’are accusing matt r. of doing. please explain further.

it seems plausible to me that, as an artist who works with the beauty of the young, you eventually have to face such allegations.

will mcbride for example is an artist whose main interest lies on boys, their coming of age, .. his “Show Me”-works about sex education for example, books he crafted with a child psychatrist, - while initially published in germany in the 70s by a katholic publisher (!) and praised for it’s natural views (theoretical as well as visual) on the topic - nowadays are considered bare child pornography. in the usa it’s illegal to own them, in europe, all publishers have ceased printing because of the ongoing moral hassle arount them. it’s a shame, because the swiss psychiatrists’ remarks on emotional development in the context of friendship, love and sex and family are a damn good read, just as how mcbrides pictures are great.

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=0948579b28712d5674c0d074b1f3f497&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/3e9336f9ae0c92d.png" alt="I. R. Sirius Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> I. R. Sirius http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6711 I. R. Sirius Identicon Icon I. R. Sirius Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:28:54 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6711 Sidney is at his best when he is pissed off! I liked this too. I am so happy you have highlighted this in your blog! Matt R.: You are living in a world totally devoid of historical perspective (even history as recent as a few decades old), and one that betrays your Western chauvinism even in today's world. Tyler: Why don't you just crawl back under the sheets with your muscle-bound bear and close the door behind you? Sidney is at his best when he is pissed off! I liked this too. I am so happy you have highlighted this in your blog!

Matt R.: You are living in a world totally devoid of historical perspective (even history as recent as a few decades old), and one that betrays your Western chauvinism even in today’s world.

Tyler: Why don’t you just crawl back under the sheets with your muscle-bound bear and close the door behind you?

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=abfe1a02bd9e9df13942d914e5881247&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/84f40e7b29ab1d8.png" alt="Matt R. Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Matt R. http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6695 Matt R. Identicon Icon Matt R. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:13:42 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6695 Even if a gay artist did have the 'courage' to use a boy as a subject it is likely that he would be arrested for child pornography and all his work destroyed. However, there are actually quite a few artists that like to focus mainly on youth both boy and girl (check out some of the links on this site). Of course I'm not sure how many are still alive though but as to whether they are gay or not doesn't seem relevant to me. Then you have to factor in models and if a family is willing to let their child model. The simple fact is that young boys is a taboo subject so its going to be in the background whether you like it or not. Even if a gay artist did have the ‘courage’ to use a boy as a subject it is likely that he would be arrested for child pornography and all his work destroyed. However, there are actually quite a few artists that like to focus mainly on youth both boy and girl (check out some of the links on this site). Of course I’m not sure how many are still alive though but as to whether they are gay or not doesn’t seem relevant to me. Then you have to factor in models and if a family is willing to let their child model. The simple fact is that young boys is a taboo subject so its going to be in the background whether you like it or not.

]]> By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=6253445274cfec48c1373c69a56bf72f&size=35&default=http://blog.milkboys.org/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/149dbaa103f59be.png" alt="Tyler Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Tyler http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6676 Tyler Identicon Icon Tyler Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:39:13 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/dangerous-boys/#comment-6676 What if these artists just aren't into boys? It makes them a coward that they don't like painting 'happy 14 year olds' nude? Why don't you paint a happy 14 year old? What if these artists just aren’t into boys? It makes them a coward that they don’t like painting ‘happy 14 year olds’ nude?

Why don’t you paint a happy 14 year old?

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