Comments on: Cupid and the Butterfly http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/ The Boys Blog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:47:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rob carter http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-41654 Rob carter Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:08:28 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-41654 I think Rick is probably right innocence is not the intent here and the trick is in the butterfly winged beauty spreading polin to create new plant life, whilst spreading its own seed in little worms that will demolish the old plant to create new life in animal life (butterflies) who will inturn spread the polin to fertilise Vegetation to again feed and ultimately ppreserve animal life and moor love and natural creations of more of each in time. As for depicting porn or obsenity no way, man and insect, vegetation and minerals were all created naked and unclothed, with or without wings, it wasn't cupit who seeded the World, but God (whichever one we follow) and only after original sin did man see shame rather than beauty in nakedness, cupid like the butterfly spreading seed, love and beautiful innocence yes! I think Rick is probably right innocence is not the intent here and the trick is in the butterfly winged beauty spreading polin to create new plant life, whilst spreading its own seed in little worms that will demolish the old plant to create new life in animal life (butterflies) who will inturn spread the polin to fertilise Vegetation to again feed and ultimately ppreserve animal life and moor love and natural creations of more of each in time.

As for depicting porn or obsenity no way, man and insect, vegetation and minerals were all created naked and unclothed, with or without wings, it wasn’t cupit who seeded the World, but God (whichever one we follow) and only after original sin did man see shame rather than beauty in nakedness, cupid like the butterfly spreading seed, love and beautiful innocence yes!

]]> By: Rob carter http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-41650 Rob carter Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:47:40 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-41650 jsween I agree kids are quite delightful to observe for their natural innocent play, let them enjoy childhood while they can, reality can wait a while till they are old enough to decide for themselves, dont tamper or objectify innoncent nature. As art these pieces are quite pleasing to me and I didn't even notice the cock, till the magnet spoke. I love artist skills, as I lack them, no way could I carv a stine so nicely. But about the only fault I can find is the confusion it might cause some day, when, not if, but when the World is again obliterated by natural happening, the Mayans expect 2012 polarity shift, and 13,000 years loater the new world archiologists may uncover it to reveal that past man was smaller and had wings? jsween I agree kids are quite delightful to observe for their natural innocent play, let them enjoy childhood while they can, reality can wait a while till they are old enough to decide for themselves, dont tamper or objectify innoncent nature. As art these pieces are quite pleasing to me and I didn’t even notice the cock, till the magnet spoke. I love artist skills, as I lack them, no way could I carv a stine so nicely. But about the only fault I can find is the confusion it might cause some day, when, not if, but when the World is again obliterated by natural happening, the Mayans expect 2012 polarity shift, and 13,000 years loater the new world archiologists may uncover it to reveal that past man was smaller and had wings?

]]> By: Rob carter http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-41647 Rob carter Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:25:08 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-41647 Maybe the Seine is too dirty these days, or just like most French I've met think they are better than us Maybe the Seine is too dirty these days, or just like most French I’ve met think they are better than us

]]> By: jd webb http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-41327 jd webb Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:34:27 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-41327 I like what you have to say I like what you have to say

]]> By: Josh~ http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-27672 Josh~ Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:21:35 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-27672 To come straight forward: I guess you're talking about his small dick: That's perfectly fine even for the sculpture of a 20 years old -- it has nothing to do with puberty but with the classical ideal of a boy. To come straight forward: I guess you’re talking about his small dick: That’s perfectly fine even for the sculpture of a 20 years old — it has nothing to do with puberty but with the classical ideal of a boy.

]]> By: Rick http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-27664 Rick Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:01:42 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-27664 Boy Magnet: I would not agree that Cupid represents innocence. Cupid, or Eros in Greek, was not innocent at all; he was a devious trickster. Jean-Francois: I think your attempt to distinguish "art" from "porn" is far too simplistic. Neither art nor porn has any rigid definition, and the defintion you give to porn as something that is "of no literary or artistic value" is innacurate. That is the definition of "obscenity," not "pornography," which has never been defined legally (at least in the US). More importantly, works of art often resist simple categorization. Your definitions suggest that art and porn are mutually exclusive categories, when such is not the case. Art can be pornographic (or erotic, if you will), and pornography (or erotica) can be artistic. Boy Magnet: I would not agree that Cupid represents innocence. Cupid, or Eros in Greek, was not innocent at all; he was a devious trickster.

Jean-Francois: I think your attempt to distinguish “art” from “porn” is far too simplistic. Neither art nor porn has any rigid definition, and the defintion you give to porn as something that is “of no literary or artistic value” is innacurate. That is the definition of “obscenity,” not “pornography,” which has never been defined legally (at least in the US). More importantly, works of art often resist simple categorization. Your definitions suggest that art and porn are mutually exclusive categories, when such is not the case. Art can be pornographic (or erotic, if you will), and pornography (or erotica) can be artistic.

]]> By: Rick http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-27656 Rick Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:50:53 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-27656 David, Cupid looks younger because the age of onset of puberty has changed due to improvements in nutrition. Puberty, the physical side of adolesence, today is at the very beginning of adolesence and may occur as young as 11 or 12 in a boy. In the late 18th century, however, puberty may not have occurred until a boy was well into adolesence, perhaps when he was 15 or 16. So there is nothing strange in the context of the time about a pre-pubesecent adolescent Cupid. David, Cupid looks younger because the age of onset of puberty has changed due to improvements in nutrition. Puberty, the physical side of adolesence, today is at the very beginning of adolesence and may occur as young as 11 or 12 in a boy. In the late 18th century, however, puberty may not have occurred until a boy was well into adolesence, perhaps when he was 15 or 16. So there is nothing strange in the context of the time about a pre-pubesecent adolescent Cupid.

]]> By: BoyMagnet http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-27620 BoyMagnet Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:06:55 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-27620 I'm sorry, English isn't my native language, so sometimes I get the words muddled up. Anyway, I think we're all agreed that the naked Cupid symbolizes the very best kind of innocence :-) I’m sorry, English isn’t my native language, so sometimes I get the words muddled up. Anyway, I think we’re all agreed that the naked Cupid symbolizes the very best kind of innocence :-)

]]> By: ed http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-27453 ed Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:28:54 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-27453 Boymagnet, thanks for explaining your intent. So put it's fine. However, you didn't succeed in presenting your point. I, too, found it unnecessarily crude, and thought it was intended to be taken as seriously and obscenely as Jsween did. I'm glad to have been wrong in so interpreting it, but it is, even on rereading, a little hard to read it as you intended it. Anyway that staue is a work of rare beauty. Boymagnet, thanks for explaining your intent. So put it’s fine. However, you didn’t succeed in presenting your point. I, too, found it unnecessarily crude, and thought it was intended to be taken as seriously and obscenely as Jsween did. I’m glad to have been wrong in so interpreting it, but it is, even on rereading, a little hard to read it as you intended it.

Anyway that staue is a work of rare beauty.

]]> By: BoyMagnet http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/comment-page-1/#comment-27446 BoyMagnet Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:01:08 +0000 http://blog.milkboys.org/article/cupid-and-the-butterfly/#comment-27446 @jsween Gosh, I seem to have offended you with my use of forbidden words, I'm sorry. I was trying to reflect ironically on the difficulties of taking innocent beauty as such - when even this statue's creator managed to get arrested for trying to make it. I fear that my feeble words, like Rudé's efforts in stone, will always be misunderstood by somebody. Do you work for the Sureté, perhaps? @jsween Gosh, I seem to have offended you with my use of forbidden words, I’m sorry. I was trying to reflect ironically on the difficulties of taking innocent beauty as such – when even this statue’s creator managed to get arrested for trying to make it.

I fear that my feeble words, like Rudé’s efforts in stone, will always be misunderstood by somebody. Do you work for the Sureté, perhaps?

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